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Episode 8 · 1 year ago

An Important Conversation 1: GEORGE FLOYD

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Apologies for anyone expecting episode 8, with the current events occurring at the moment, we felt it was only right to address them and discuss the concerns we have over the society we live in. RIP George Floyd.

Llright Fab, no okay, we are yeah going GNTO, say: Okay,if you're listening to this, that means that this actually did get posted, thatwe actually thought that this was worth Bo strings of at ething. Okay, so I guess best way to say is:When we die this podcast, we wanted to just have a laugh of it. Our concern was never current affairsor consaid was never politics. It was not one thing that we wanted toinvolve in the podcast. We just wanted to do this. A weekly thing just havefun and see where it goes, but I just feel like having this platform, even if we don'thave that many lists in having this patform and not commenting on thecurrent affairs or current situation with the George Floyd incident, andeverything would be a disservice to. I guess whatwe're trying and that's what wee we're just here to have like a discussion andwe're probably going to release this as like important talks or whetever. Wedecide to tail it yeah, an for sure. Like yeah, I agree soon as, like yousaid I was like yeah. I think there's a lot of merit and being more like wellgrounded and there's no point in you know I know as as a joker like we're,not political, and you know, for the most part we're not going to be like YW, the daily show or like whatever, but you know I think you know Doi to talk about the world. Iagree with you and if, when things hit like this, you know and like I think the thingthat sold me on it was the fact that what you mentioned you, like you justdidn't, feel comfortable. Putting like the T E episode, we've already recorded out duing this, which kind of made mequestion. You know like MMEYEAH, make me examine if I I fer comfortable ornot N, I kind of I was like I mean yeah. I think you know we could. We couldvery well have done it and kind of not mentioned it, and I think that the marriage would be that you know ifanyone if, like you know, one about two listeners is like like following us, like theykind of get a break from it, because I guess people getting undated with a lotof the bad news in the world, but you know I think. In the same token, ifsomething really speaks to you and it means a lot, I think this- I is theperfect place, at least for what both of us Ho,like put it, put it out there and discuss it and see what the otherthings and- and so I was, I was whate. Wha was right with you. I was like yeahmight as well. Do it, like you know, where ad a little depth to o through oursilliness yeah, so I'm sure that everyone doesknow the context, but just as a quick, summanary, okay, so the the official records is there was a fordery forgery place casethat the officers were called to and they suspected this George Floyd wasthe the one with the fourdry documents at a Crosstory Stol and they arrestedhim and apparently he resisted resisted to a level that they had to pin himdown and then one of the officers go ahead, neolon his neck for seventyeight minutes up to the level that he's unresponsive and then he was laterconfirme to be dead yeah I thinki yeah. He died, theycalled an ambulance and then he died later in the hospital. That's correct!Yeah! It's A it's crazy! It's crazy! What? What? Howdid you yeah remind me again like how you found out about it and oh, how Iheard it bout it yeah? Oh, it's REELLY, Lun! Sorry! By the way this justhappened. Yesterday toasis happened...

Wednesday, the twenty sixt I rathrchoose it tor e six, so yeah well. At yeah as in it was really, I guess, it's really bad in my friond,but last night I was just doing as everyone does just crawling on instolethrough out like stories, and I think I saw a picture. Byt Do'ng acknowledgewhere it was, and I didn't see much more of it, and some of the pictures had some Americancontext to which I don't understand, and I think I just passed on becausethere's usually like some sort of American hat joke orAmerican thing that you just don't understand Ye. I because there's toomuch, there's too much context to it. It's like one massive American insideJok Adolmontin, so I just Gor apast Ted in untaned yeah, and then I woke up totext from a goylfriend and then I was just like shit. I should look into thisand that's when I realized what I saw pictures of what I saw yesterday wassnapshouts of a video of the man essentially Di and yeah. I spent majory of my morning justlooking into, and just I I did cry at one point it did. It did hit me harder and yeah yeah. It's just absolutelyhorrible. I guess especially especially like two days ago. I believe,that's when the whole current Central Park situation happen. Yeah, H and tothree months ago is when Theamad olbrecase happened and yeah. It's just I'm more surprised about the Aman ofShit, that's happening during covid like like weeks ago. I would remembertelling you how the pandemics in some way like putting us together like likeit's as if like humanty, is lost. Hopp te just to be together right, and it'sjust it's just reasy, really scary, to thinklike Awey in the M middle of the huge pandamic throughout the world, and thisis still going on and it's fake it'sit's yeah, it's crazy. I thinkthese type of like dynamics ar just sowing grains inculture like in all cultures. You know of like what we talked about, so Iguess people will listen to it after cholorism, it's kind of like a samesimilar type of mentality. You know, I think America has you know for a long time. Just like I mean yeah, we throuh slavery. Justit's meant a you know: the majority of the poor and working class were justblack or the at least they made up a big part of this propotion amount ofblack people are part of the poor working class and they get aways and- and I think that within itself, after a long time whenpeople when individuals are now getting like more freedoms and that we'restronger as individuals, you kind of see the power that you have over otherpeople and that's actually even things that you don't really think about. I,but it's you know certain attitudes that you hold like you know when youtalked about that. You know carrying from the Central Park like holly thepolice, on the sky, and then he was filming Hem, like the you know, the thevery reason that she allowed herself to do that because she knew she had thepower she was like. Oh, I can just say this and then I can makethings happen. I can really fuck this guy over. I it's crazy that they did the it's morecrazy to me that they have that selfawareness that they understand whatthe power they have is it's just like. Oh, this man is telling me to put mydog on my leash, as the signs are saying and how the fuck, how day he saythat Howliday in African Merican say that to me, I'm an call. The police and Im gin saythat there he's attacking me and yeah and- and she later published apology,no, she didn't she accepted that she...

...was calling camera and she had to dothat or then she would have been hated on for like that's all. It was it's crazy because you know this isactually I mean like this is what she did. It's like it's a power that womenin general have in good countries. Right is, like course, and so, and some some have abused it like you know it'slike. Oh, if you know you, my problem is going to be taken seriously. If it'slike violence against me, if I, if I quote, if I make the CAL and I thought people being people, theyl abuse thepower that they have the positions that they have. But the interesting thing tome is that she didn't say he's like she put extra emphasis in African, a veryMarlan like that meant something else like if it was like. She wouldn't havesaid White Man, obviously because she's white, but, like she didn't say thisman t was attackin me. She yeah, he idnt say the Samenshe like that.Doesn't it gave it like a little extra source? You know nok yeah like if itwas a serious manter like for that happened between us and something washappening and we calling the cops. I don't think we would even likemention the race of any othersmen. It makes Yo Yowould, you would don'e knowyou woulds, you wules yeah you make because like otherwise, how will theyknow what they look like so o his wet? But, like you know, in a DESCRIPTI WAIT!No! No! You would say that after they ask Oh yeah describe the manterdescribed, t e woman or somethine like that yeah, it's like to jump out andjust say: Oh this African American man is attacking me. Then she knew exactlywhat it meant and hes just like what's tune me more is just how. How scary is that she knows what thepower she has is and yeah yeah and it's and it's a kind of asimilar mentality that played into the role offcerthat. I mean you know it'shard to say you know it's hard to say. Obviously W we don't know the office ofwe don't know what's in his head, it could have just been like, like couldhave just lost it as a human being and like done that but e say that, but then, like obviously social, media, socialmedia and Ythey, look through his shit andthere's like pictures on his facebook with like make whites great again inthe front of make America again there we go and it's UST Liin knowthat, I'mnot going to give the benefit. Ofthe fucking doubt for this kind. No, I didn't know it. I didn't I didn'tknow that, because all I read was the Ardcall Lon it BVC, because I tried tojust get the facts and Wene Yeu to that verfin o exactly of course like, butyeah I mean if they found, because they found that then this guyas gotquestionable beliefs and yeah go on. I was going to say Ijust got the police statement here and it' just like reading itis just yeah okay, he owed he was ordered tostep out of his car. After he got out. He was he physically resisted officers.Officers were able to get the suspect into cat handcaffs and noted heappeared to be suffering medical distress. He was in Medi Col distressbecause you had his kneet. You had your knee on his neck. yahoffices called an ambulance CNCIOUS. He was transported to the CountyMedical Center Biabulas, where he was he wa died short short time later at notime were any weapons of any type used by anyone ininvolved in the incident you know when Yo saw the video Ithere's another thing that I wanted to mention, as in like I ways was that guy.That said, oh instead of filming it help, because Ialways ti th that always pissed me UPF, and I saw that in twitter today and Iwas like this is the one time that I don't feel that because like if someonegot involved, I don't know what thei case would be like yeah, let Aloney F,Africanamerican jumped in fuck knows what happened. Would Ha Lor happen forboth of them, let alone anything like if, if one of the people like they,there was a white woman that was filming that I saw in the video likesay if she actually like tackled him or some Shit Ike that line. God knows whatwould have happend and you can't do...

...that to like. I don't know what the case would be forlike if the situation was in the UK, let alone but American cop. If you trytackling him, I'm pretty sure like he has licensed to kill Yeah Msa yeah. Ithink, like it's crazy, I didn't watch the video I never. I never watchedthose videos, I don't have the heart for it, because I just I think, I'd D turn into like two twomalcomecemen like I think I do read the stories like you know,back in the day with Tra on Martin and Eri Gano, who said exactly what he asYe Yeacan breathei had to bcause of this Cha. I decide to read and watchsheme Suff and genuinely. I start swaying as soon as like I realized they.Ere GONEA was the same phrase and it's just like man. It's it's. A crazy is a crazy state ofaffairs and I think, like you know what it made me think of anmaybe think of like just in kind of pure ways of like whatit is that we're living in what in which ways that we're living- and Ithink that you know every citizen of any country have has a social contractwith the state right and this guy called maxwebber. He was likea German sociologist. He had like a like a very important like like phrasing in his defonition of thestate. He was like what was it. It was organized. It was like legitimate USEF force yeahlike the th, the use of the used, the is like the state has the monopoly in.I legitimate use of users of force, and I think that's what gives the power tothe state, because the legitimate use of physical force they just kind oflike is one of the main ways like countries remain functioning like evenwhen there's like highlyh highenemployment low by noopportunities high povergy. So, in those times when people say like theworld is fucked- and you know times you know, people seey, like the woodsfucking, find a lot of like reasons to revolt. They often come to theconclusion that the state maintains a certain level of peace and revolveslead to chaos, deaths and, after all, that's done. It takes like a long timeto fix everything and build and organize so they kind of just like. Ohthis is this pieceis. It's a hard thing to like to have so t. that's, let's. Let's justappreciate the state so that the state becomes better yeah, because the policeis has this power of using thiis a legitimate usef force, and I justthought it was an interesting thing, because when you don't that's when you Justnito d, that's also the. I believe,the reasoning that they gave to their Agarna case that the Pu- I don't think there was anything. Idon't think officers then were punished. I don't, and I think therewas a all right. I think there was a statement that they released, sayingthat they use the appropriate level of force and yeah. It's just May, if you define, if the ones that are causing theproblem, to find how much they could do like that that that system at the end of the day, it's likewhat the fuck, exactly and and but it's like, but if the police hold themselvesac like Hiit, accountable but like to a high degree to like just to just maintaining a good level ofpeace and not partaking in the level of violence, then everyone, then everyone,no matter how bad things are in their...

...own personal lizes. Everyone kind ofnot everyone, but most people realize that this is better than you knoweveryone making their own arbitrary rules on how to deal with the world,like essentially TOUC, because it said in Thi's like Oh, this life is shit.You know everyone's poor, but it's is better. If we don't have this andevrone makes their own rules in like governing themselves and their owncommunities, then they'Llso be like the movie, the perch like so you so, butwhen they don't. When you see like George Flor e Flor, like groaning, Ican't breathe and then, like the officer, has his foot, like you know allike heis kneeling on his neck yeah. You kind of you kind of just realize that when you,when you realize that it's that pattern, yeah it's a pait's, it's like there's afew cases and like the Trai on marking Baut in an Aregana thing started likethe Black Lives Matn Mo yes and there's a bunch of other other cases. I mean tobe fair. The most of the cases that we do talk about. The most of the casesare on. The news is only because is video simplus like let's be honest. If what happened to you flod shouldn'thavepeen siles, but it would have still happened if, whether someone video orno just thank good that someone, video tdidenough, that we can have thisconversation and things can happen to prevent it. I think they've also gotbody cams, the police Saso there gongto have to send use over, but you know there wareprotests and people went to like the like the police station. They thoughtthe police officers worked up yeah and, like they threw stuff, this pray payingshit like it was Mahem and like the reason that happened is because, likewhen the violence isn't legitimate, or at least like regularly perceived asbeing regularly perceived as being illegitimate. So, regardless of thefact that the police, ofe right or wrong, is being perceived as if thepolice is wrong. Yeah, then the citizens are forced to likereconsider, thei social contract. Yes, and like they hat. If the systemdoesn't work, they have to revolve is what they're, daking right and LIK,essentially they're, trying to make dom system I mean, but like on the. On theother hand, an I san sorry no', going s gonna Sean that there was also, Ibelieve, relatives of George Floyd himself outside the officers home, and I think I e H. I think some higher authority in the policefigure came and he was literally like they're, not they're, doing a very safeprotest. I can't complain with anything lat. He joined the protest at one pointand he just carrying people. He Ca Ho. The police officer joined theprotest. No, he asn' like he was there. I think he was somewhat likeinvigilating like what was going on. He stayed with them for a bit and left andhe just like now they're doing a very safe form of it. I can't complain and, like the the officer tried to deliverFeu to his house, and some deliveries came and then they just left, theydidn't even deliver the food tey like now. I can't do this shit and yeah, but it's one thing that did catch me is the cousin of George Floyd was on a wasin the Menes, and she says she watched the video before knowing it was George,so she so she thoughtshe literally thought, or I feel so sorry for thisfamilly next hen minutes later she gets a call and is match it's. I SHAWG I a just want tofish wit. This I saw like a message of someone that I must follow and he waslike being black is just about, I think, seeing violence that happenedto black people and then revoting against it or becoming numb towards it,and it's just a constant emotional...

...battle and thine. I am like you know Itri to not think like that, because it's like it's slightly the feetist. Ithink I think you know there are like, Oh, like everyone's dealt at differenthands to set to certain degrees, and I think that if there is somethingspecific to like, let's say the black struggle in like Western countries,because a lot, a lot of the similar situations happen like Herev happenehere in France and Portugal. That I know of is that you know if you'R, if you'reConflese, if you're like compatriots the people that live with you like kind, you know, have the responsibility ofDhefining you and you have the responsibilitis defining them. Themajority of the people will have like most of let's say the the narrative to thefining like so so really so you were at the behastanyone who's, a minority of anything, is at the Behese of the majority of themajority's attitudes towards them. So and it's the case to, like you, know eAsian, just the case of peoplew disabilities. But obviously the blackthing is different because of, I think, a very big class problem and a lot ofold attitudes that play into that. So like it's, but thinking that you know I could saythe same thing about you know Brown people, I cul say the same thing aboutWhylammaphovia. I could you could say the same thing like you know that couldhave been the SAM thing like about like white peepe like Russians, you know inthe Goulag, not yeah yeah, like it's crazy, likewhen communism was, was a thing like twenty five million people died likebecause of like they were like white and in e. no and a lot of people werekilled by the state, and so, as I think I tri to think of it.More and more structural forms go take ocusing on just yeah yeah right,because if you zo men to like you own ex, sometimes people fall into the trapof defining themselves by the things,because there two forms of subconscious Bius at the end of the day, yeahs likea posing and defensing so yeah, I got I feel Im. So it's it's yeah. I think that just the only erroris sometimes you'll. Be Ae you'll, be thinking that people hold certainattitudes because of your color and you'll be wrong. So, like I when firstway I deal with it, is I always assume that people aren't racist yeah and if,but then, if they are, they tend to show themselves because one they wantthey either. Like hang out with me, they talk long enough and they lieohthis person's racist or they don't want to hang out with me and then you knowyou hear. Oh you hit a guys raicin! Oh that's! Why dhedn't want to hang? UWith me, so it's better lik like like that because, let's say even let's usea the example of a police officer. So unfortunately, now a lot of people agoing to think tha police officers, racist yeah, they don't have anyjustice and all that shit yeah exactly and then imagine someone is someone at you driving a car and thenthe police offic stops you and your blackyou're black Youre in America.polease of to Stop Shou like your hearts, beeting like Oh whats, is goingto be and the guys like w drivers, ro driving his license and registration.Then he gives him and then the Guyis, like a Di Bcaus Lik, where you goinglike, is really rude to him like he looks at him like he's a piece of shitthat guy might think the police officer is racist. Yeah, the White Guy might still get thatpolice offer exactly the same respoct the same way of he's going to deal withhim, the same way N. I look at look at that guy, like his a piece of shit buthe'll just think he's a Dick Yeah. So to me, I try to look for specificexamples of like whet people openly...

...like show like their racism, and I think I'm just going like generallife, and I that doesn't mean that I shy away from when real racist thingshappen, W which it seems that, like you know this, you know like the guy being like awhite supremacist like onwee having the White Itwas, it Wel, you say, makeAmerica White Again! Well, no! No! He wasn't, it was in the FUC. It was likethe Makeamerica Greay again half, but I il he said, make whites great again: Okay, yeah! Well, I mean so far,there's a lot of things leading towards of like that's the thing a en, like Ididn't, seem R. I looked at the video and obviously even before I startedlooking tae video I was shot with like as in like those left rids and o ofthis is going to be racist. Asn'N, like whether I read anything or something ofthat I 's, like I kind of knew what was getting to there's. Also the fact that also yeah, okay, all four officers havebeen fired at this point, yeah they're all going to get poen trial. They algoing to be investigated by the FBI. They've all got attorneys, who are somewhat experienced in controversial C police shootings. And what do you think should happen to them?What do you think I don't? I honestly don't know I meanif I'm going from that video like it, doesn't look good right now. If youknow he did, they did kind of break H as right as a citizen they did ninflict. You know unlawful violence on him, like H, theif those turn ot to be true, then yet then they're guilty, but- and it looks like they gonna be, butyou know there's also been cases where you know it looks like from a video. Oh,this is just police officers shit. But then, a few months later, when, likethe couit goes into the course, you kind of realize oh the case or morebuts, more more new ones. I don't think that's the case, but I'm kind ofholding I'm kind of holding my thing, because I don't want to jump and alsojudge anyone unnecessarily, because you know what the guy did that you know he looks like almosta hundred percent guilty. I don't know about the other three I mean that's thething yeah on the video. I could only see another member so, in my opinion,the one with the knee on the neck, in my in my opinion, that's first degreemurder and thees ths there's another individual there. I don't know if it's of any ou to saythis, but he's like othe Asian descent like North Asian Deshen, and it's justlike that is interesting to like to see likeI ii would want to hear of what his pointof view of the Shit is, but he was basically defecting all thecrowd, yeah and yeah in my eyes. Well he's helping the whole shit happend sothat second degree Mae Wold Man Scool at least, and it's just like. I don'tsee the other two in the picture at all in the K. lic thing, so I don't knowabout that when Ni'm going to commen on that, but these guys should be trowdfol. MEDA theyre, in my eyes at least ther, thatMu, that that death is completely on their hands and it's I remember likewell. The thing is my problem is, like you see so many videos- and yousee so much news about like police officers misusing the TASA and stufflike that. It's like theydidn't, even attempt that shit like they could like.Oh He's, restrained just tay him then like do something it's like that was no!No sufficient in for seven minutes like yeah, you, like, I, don't know whathelt problems he had like. I Remember Hari Goner. They also blamed on himhaving askmine, lovely, shes and stuff...

...like that like which is pistik on itsown. It's like yeah, still, you don't fucking Flor a man and just strangling, but with the with George Floyd at a likeyeah. As in like for seven minutes, you put your knee on someone's neck like how is that restraining them? How isthat? Not? Just it's and a guy apparently had mental healthproblems as well. Oh, the George floiht yeah yeah, really yeah. So it's like tlike pretty serious one. I've Tus wrote from what I read on the BBC website,but yeah it's. So it's really complicated situation. I think myseaking suspission is that they are guilty because four of them wer got fired Ye. I thinkthat the Bistseedat, which compared to like any previous case, tha we've seenlike in the world like we, no one, acts thatfast like no and, like, I think, Jo, I think I happened. I think they saw thefooge and Awas ascacle cat that a not yeah they're, like Oh these guy, if wekeep these here, is going to devalue. Our in, like police institution likebecause looks too clear that you guys were, at the very least grossly negligenceare the most abuse your power to the Fullis. It'slike when the police, like a public service, yeah like like the engine of like the engine ofthe states that, like American citizens, trustlike continuously a scene, doing that it's like that same thing: it it pusthe whole notion of it kind of it puts evyone in the weldexistential state where you you have to reexamine. You Tin Cos the socialcontract yeah. It's like okay! Well, I'm not getting this basic. This, themost important thing, keepthis whole thing together, I'm not getting this at's all I'm just getting like afucking, I'm getting targeted, I'm not get I'mnot only in my not being protected, I'm getting targeted. So it's a weird thing and I think I'm scared sometimes about those feelings becoming sort of more and morewidespreads and then because the chaos that comes from that is, is this bat so now you're, right, you're, right you'reright, I mean yeah as American citizens. They trust thepolice to like deal with violence and crime and they pay for the police to doso and when they caught on camera, beating and killing simingly likeinnocent people on like a semiregular basis, bacis you're going to startseeing people like they're, not part of the state, see because one of his Lukmy problem is like you chose that job. It's not even an easy job to get intothere's so much training, there's so much there's so much! You need to go togo into that. It's like! Why would you go to it? If you don'twant to serve the people, all the People Lak, I just I don't know it's. Ithink I mean you know it's the same way like a lot of you know. People have the. I don't know the instincts to go to theArmyn they're, not the best eggs. Like you know. Some people just want to theydon't want to like Tyo seen protect it. They want to kill. Fi De Patriarchy isjust to do with power, yeah, yeah and yeah when the same people you'resupposed to like call to protect you. have it like seemingly like have an inFer you and treat you like shit and target you to abuse their power they're,making their jobs harder and putting themselves in more danger,because the whole state gets called into question, of course, and n itslikning the whole entry exactly and to...

...be like whats, this ov Yo. Like thesolution to me, I've seen ECAUSE, I was. I read a lot about Lak Black ClassMATTERWAS. One of the main solutions that made sense to me was communityplist policing, like people from the community, policing their communities,because tey know how it works to talk to the people they were were of goingup. Seeing those faces, I'm not saying to make it a war, be have more of that,so that things go smoovh like ESPEC, specially in Port in port areas anddefinitely bet training like these. These callating violence, like youthes,you get in touch with this Cottan Yard, Broug Theyr, not scotting out, isimperfect, but compared to like other western countries, they the scaleviolence way better than everyone else. Why do you think that is? Why do youthink well at least ou? You said that there's re there's similar cases in theUK, but is there like to this extent and no no a NA. I mean that's what I'm goingtosay it's like. Why do you think? Why do you think Americas so this, and why are we at this level? Whydo you think that there's so Mach Tru discrepancy between, I think specifically in therelationship between that say, black and white people is that I's two different histories of thecountry? So I think, because r African Americans were enslaved before theyeven became Americans, they kind of and end they were systemmagically like oppress for a long time after that, and a lot of people makegood arguments that you know the prison system, and all of that is another wayof of kind, ofooppression yeah and like Tao, the war and drugs being anotherfront, exactly yeah and I think the UK kind ofgets away with a lot of the blame because you know they didn't have any.They had some slaves, but they didn't re partake in slavery. They didn't likemix people like slaves with people in England, so like all, even though thetransportd more slaves from Africa to the Americas in anyone to the ACTA,essentially ight yeah exactly- and I think because of that, when in the swhen they started getting more immigration from you know all all theseother types of countries with black and Asian people. That was a choice thatpeople made it to come, and I think that immediately changes the thedynamic sets and the relations between people. It's like people, even though they're still problems likethresth', there's, definitely problems and, but I think you know people kind of hadto accept people moving in and and whereas people in America for along time we're just living together from theGETGO and just learn to hat each other like monthages and capulups like for,like in a cycical manner, and that takes a long a lot of time to kind of, I guess, unlearn as a popular, we noThas, yeah tat. That makes a lot of sense, and no, so I was going to say:Do you think it's anything to potentially like when I see thegovernment like when I see like, I feel Thak, the common mand is closer. The UKcommon mind is closer to the prime minister. Then the the US common man iscloser to the president. President seems far too untouchable and, like the primaicijust seems very rich, but still one of us, I think, there's I don't know I think. Actuallyit's it's kind of the. I think MPs seem like more like a lotof MP seem seem because they have to be elected and all ths and and not. Iguess Primmiisis also have to be elected, but break like a lot of MPs like a kind ofmore related, but more relateto bowl,...

...of course. So I think in that sense the whole,maybe seems more representative, like more ideas, feel like more ideas.Basically the left and the right, I think, feel quite well. representetiveparliament here and whereas and but like in terms of the leaders, is likenot they all went to like Eton and then went to Cambridge a Oxford, oh yeah, Imean, like I don't mean Bujo is any anyway like me and him having conversation. I don'tthink we would have much in common, but, like I do think that ther yeah. I do think that a like, at leastin UK we do have a decent representation Yeah and having that representationallows for a more efficient system to some extent right. I think so that that's an I think thatS ie. I think that might be. That might be. That migh be one of the reasons,and I think the fact that the UK specifically like compared to evenother European countries, isn't really ghetoized so like it doesn't have asmuch like big high store like flats tbut are just outside of like the maincity, where people kind of have their own rules it kin. It's everyone is alot more integrated, and I think because of that, you can have betterrelationships and you can manage people in a better in a better way and butyeah I prefer like, but let the UK politicians. I think it also this it'sjust like the ethos of thec. I think its quite strict and reasonable, and Ithink people kind of if yeah people kind of like reallythere's a sort of this idea of trying to be of being reasonable, is veryBritish. To me like, like O me, Tha. The most common phrase here is fairenough I's like as long as people. Things are like fair enough people kindof accept it for the most part in most situations, but of course, exceptions for that. That makes a lotof sense. Yeah Yeah. That's I think, it's embedded into the culture hundredpercent that make yeah. Do you think that's everything we needto address is ther anything that we miss BRO WH WHA. Have I written I'vewritten yeah we've talked about trailing inthese thes K. I discalating escollating, this gavise Caling, Idon't know de Scaling, makes sense. Yeah and Thi was like, like actuallyone of the ports I ons mentioned is like deal with deep inequalities ofgetowise communities, but, like that's like a big, that's a big projectbecause you know yeah yeah and I think, and I've written a like last prob thing,which is about like only by doing those things. Can American citizens,especially those with black skin, get on the road to look at police officerslike brave supermat types that go out and, and you know, put their lives on the lines foreveryone rather than Yeathe, keep it one stape, rather thanwith suspicion, hate and sadness. That seems to be in the air every time thepolace fuck up or is seen to fock up and use. I legitimate violence, legitimates violence, it puts and then,as soon as that happens, it puts into question the vary. Social contracthumans have with the states and then what of the Haveo that comes from that.So to me, is just like minimize Yo have bad training train your people back sof, these things don't happen and fucking Welli mean exacty. We have toknow people I meanso mx, so go ahead. I was going to say that you know a bigpart of this suspicion. I think the reason I'm kind of on board, with liketerms of like, like homophobia and Islamaphobia. It'slike a lot of the hate really come from fear yeah, of course, which reallycomes from not knowing so a lot of...

...those people as soon as they just mixjust Hav. Make friends make friends with people are like. Don't een makefriends but like talk to people and be nice and you'll see that everyone canbe all right and you won't. You want billanize people. You won't feel whenthis crazy state that you have to like Ioto see them as a threat. I mean likemy gyms in West Hampston, which is a very posh area right and like it was acold winters day and I had my Hoodi on and I had a bigger bit than I have nowand I was stopped and searched and I Hav I was stokd in seach twice and sotimes I had my hood O Bof Times. I had a bid, not gonna, comment on why I think itwas just a sheer conincidence and but now that is what I is, isn't like Icompletely agree is Tham is Namphobias fucking. I think I think is Lam Pov isfucking crazy here, but I do think a lot of our discrimination is veryBritish. In the sense it's just silent discrimination like does that make sense, as in like justsubconscious, byus Orr, just just being scared of someone tha justal. If someone walks past and just keeping your eye on them till they goout of your site. SORTOF thing it's like just basically yeah just living infear. It's, I think, yeah. I think it's true, but I think you know we kind ofhave that with with everyone. You know if I see like even me, if I'm walking-and I see like you- know- five black dudes- that look in a certain type ofway. Like you know, these are also instincts that are important to listento, like, especially in those situations. Don't I don't care, I'm thelast person that cares about being raisist in terms of like, like it being.If, if I have to be slightly rude in order to feel safe, I will be. I willdo that course, but the thing is, I have a better gauge of it because Iknow these different types of people and I won't be like stupidly rude because I don't know a certain type of person. I don't knowthat what they're doing is exactly normal and thint for intane. Sorry,when I see a bunch of like black guys or Asian lives- and I can tell whenlike Oh these at- are just having fun or these lot up to trouble and that'sthe reason is. The reason is because I know both types of people and you kindof see the dynamics yeah, and I think we just have that whwul. We well the people at the end ofthe day. We know what the donies that are for Troubel look like and we knowou like normal people, look like simblize that we don't need to feelthem, but it's just the ideology that just group everyone and together I just put a persign and the more togetherbecause that's what they are sort of thing. That's that's the Shit thatll! THAT'S THE SHIT! That's happening here!That's that's what I'I it's silly, but it's also all right. It's alsointeresting that all right, so the way that you know wethat most people make friends is kind of like in a random way. I think thatnow that's kind of changing because a lot of people joining like groups ofcommon interest online, but imagine you're, like a woman in your s like theyou know that lives in, like I don't know, a totally white area, all herlife and you know she she's in London, it's likehow do you even have the skills to really Knowi Knowin me just pot and Tem,to know the difference and to not be a caren but N. it's like how d you evengo about solving that problem. Do you like just be like hey, need a blackfriend and Nees, a black black teenage innineteen, so rihe to talk to you sothat? I know that you can be all right. Ithink Thingou Shou Wis doitg A lot. Actually I think it's just. I thinkit's the ideonogy of like being open for stars as exactly as inthere's nothing wrong with fear, as hin like, I think you need fear to likelive. If you don't scare, if you're scared of something you're fucked, youneed the Nobel fear to actually drive...

...your reflexes and Wanno, but it's justt e ideology that keep the fear. Keep the feal just learn a little more likewe live in a fucking age that we caul search. Anything up like you, can't bescared of a woman in a book or something like that. It's like justsearch up why they wearing it not is yeah and yeah, like you said like howthey're going to make friends and stuff like that, I don't even think they need.Like a Bestin, that's black, to understand this stuff. They just needto be open enough to talk. Thike yeah. Just just be that like really reallynice elderly woman that talks to everyone, you know the one that justsays hide to everyone and then yeas like oh she's, really nice she's,definitely eourth from London. THAT'S ALS! Ha! That's a true thing!People Ar London, forlight people outside of London are Nice. Oh yeah,that's funny like No. This is ajus generally. The best chat ever we'lltalk, Fun, well, talk shots out to lummy and and Joe Actually di't ia man, yeah lright, I guess Wai Dine and thatDout no don't shout we're not We'e, not doing the whole, of course, nots Yeahihow to reflex an Iwas like? Is he going to do it? I asked a question: o Shit,no yeah. I guess that some parting words, likeyou know, like Ellen the Genereus, says, be kind to one another right and you know try to you know if you yeah and if you're, ina position of power, if you find that you have power, know that you know cheesy as it comes with great powercomes gotth great responsibility, so you have to be vigilant about howyou're going to abuse it and if you follow, if you follow thosebasic guidelines, you kind of you kind of avoid being a Dick, a lot of thetimes and yeah and then just o know pot from thatbe happy. There we go.

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