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Episode 12 · 1 year ago

Ep10 Gang Gang

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In this episode, Fab needs to wear a skirt, Gowse misses the moshpit life and we stan the lord of the snitches

I think we're just started. All right, everybody, welcome back to episode ten of the are we done podcast? Are we done yet? PODCAST? We'll get that, man, by it episode a hundred. You get this. Don't worry, I've got faith in you. So I've got faith in you. Who can't get a name right? I mean I got like more than half right. That's that. She count to something. So, you know, you came from encouraging background. You'd look at the good stuff and then the bat shit blatantly. You know, Brown, that's a very good point. My Dad was the type of that those happy with if I got to like a B Yeah, my dad was the kind of dad that gets a DNA taste when he gets a be. Would you you that type of guy to give it a beat to a bee? Oh Yeah, yeah, that does make sense. Yees, yeah, sorry, that didn't know. Righteouster, it's all right, man, it's all right, all right, man, Monday morning vibes exactly. I mean people are listening to this on Friday, so that's a bit behind the scenes. Bets. We're so cool. Anyway. How are you? How are Ye, I'm good, man, I'm good. Yeah, but I think I'm it's been quite a quite a good week. I think I went through I went to another protest the other day. It was it was right. It was right before the old, the day before the old right showed up to try, yeah, to do also, I didn't experience any of all that Malarkey. Boy. So you went on Friday, right. Yeah, and I thought Friday was the one that they canceled because the EDL or whatever racists like, we're planning on doing like it, like breaking into the protest of some show like that. So then when I saw yours and I saw like I saw your story and then I saw a following story of another person saying like Oh, don't go to the protest, like these people are just joining the protests and it's canceled. Is For tomorrow now, and I'm just like where is fast? Yeah, no, man, it's exactly. It's exactly. I think it was Saturday. That's the one that was canceled and then they moved to Friday because it Saturday. That's when they all showed up in drones and yeah, but I think they still discourage people from showing up because I didn't want too many people. Well, we still got, like I reckon. A good five thousand people were there and it was like by far the best one so far, because it's we know, it looked late on your story, mad like when you guys are like electric sliding, and I was just like okay, for a guy that hasn't went out out in like three months, that's the closest to a nightlife I've seen, even though it was in daytime, and I was so fucking jealous. Yeah, it's it was that bit was sick, like it stuck because he had, I think he had everything. Is started with in Hyde Park with everybody just they had like speakers, like I think six or seven speakers show up, everyone like different types of black. I found out there's like black people in like Indonesia, which I'm was like that, yeah, yeah, and they kind of oppressed and that this dude was there talking about how he would like he spent twenty five years in prison for signing up for his rights and and then he had to get asylum in the UK to then to fight for the rights of black people in Indonesia. In it. It was like some heavy stuff. And then there was like yeah, black British experience. There was like then just a foreigner, like an immigrant, immigrant, black person living in the British, living in the British, living in Britain. He was. It was quite an array of stories that I thought was quite interesting and we and then after we sort of walked to Rafago square and you know, after that, that's when people start like there was a concert. There was a full on concert, like, I don't know, some girls supposed to be like big, she was singing. Everyone got hype, some rappers got hype and then they were like, all right, it's five, you won't have to go, and people still stay there, including myself. And then that's when you saw the electric slide, and then the police will love it as well. But it was sick. It was such a go like it looked so it looked. Each look...

...vibes me. It was I was so jealous, like I haven't had that it's so long when you just like I remember, like the last time I felt like that was when when we turned cargo into somewhat of a washpit and we were just like going slide to slide. It's it's like you kind of gave me a black pass and I kind of a kind of joined black crow. I was just fun. This must man, it was the best time ever. Literally was thinking I was I missed that day, I missed that bay. Yeah, that that that was a sick day. That was so fun and those guys were hype as fuck. Man. I was just good. And then, like sometimes like this stuff that I love, Mush Bits. Man, once I, me and my friend Callum, started a mosh pit, like we actually started a mush bit of two hundred people and it was like an under eighteen rave. I forgot what it was, but it was an under eighteen rave where people, I think they already showed up drunk, but all everyone was drinking was bottles of water because he want allowed to serve. Yeah. And then so a lot of people were sober. So we just everyone's got drunk of the night and halfway, feel like was like eer thirty or twelve, me and my friend just started going, started pushing people and it wasn't hardness, like the whole if you imagine that whole room plus another room everyone wash pitting it, will you know I was the craziest one. The funniest thing about mush pits is that it's so amazing. It's so Vibrat, it's so fun that. The best bit of it is the ones that don't know they're in a mush pit and you see their faces that they'd sheerd the rest. They're like, I want to get out of this, I can't see an exit. I'm fucked. You've heard of the phase coaster, but you see what a closter looks like where they just like they're riding that way. They're like, I don't know when I'm going home. Wednesday, all, Friday? We'll see together, Bro I'll drown. It is. Sorry. It's so fun when you see people like not comfortable and not happy to bullshit. It's funny. Another side to it it's when it's like this, there's always a girl. I always a girl or two who kind of she's like right on the edge of the mush bit. Were like the main hype is going on over here. Yeah, right right outside it, and then she's kind of pushing people and then she builds up the courage to go in and I'm like, don't go any further, don't do it, don't do it, because it's always like a skinny girl. And then she goes in it. You see it coming back, just like hair is just all over the play his like out of breath like this look far from the outside, but the inside it's just chaos, controlled Kaos. In my head it's it's like she goes in and then next time ever, she's just been carried by the crowd. On top of it. Now much was the best. Yeah, Dude, wish I had one of that protest now. It was it was about piece of love. And then then, Oh yeah, do you see that? On My instagram story? There was there was a stage. Nice the gays do, yet they I was like, I was so jealous. I would love to be in that daunt. I was trying to think of ways to go and be part of their group. There was so and now, way, you kept on videoing them and yeah, they noticed you. I mean I was doing electric side as well as I was video. Yeah, that's why I kind of anyway. But I was like I have to get I have to be this so cool. There was this dude wearing the skirt and fucking and looking like it was sick. I was like, I need to wear that skirt. He just look good. Not Good for a day, Dude. I feel just like Yo, he could pull that off. Skirt, leather jacket. That's the next fab look, man, I want to get married to kill leave exactly. By the way, I'm was this the sleeveless leather jacket? It was? I'm not sure if it was. No, no, the sleeves has to have the hench guy. Oh, yeah, he just I think I just resonated whenever I just like I love you, yeah, like you are everything. I want to be there. I. Yeah, they were a fabulous man May. And Yeah, oh, talking a fat five, I started watching every the new season of Queer. I I just wanted to put out there, just speaking of gay. I know I think gay, but no, yeah, yeah, yeah, that I was so jealous of your fucking stories, man, and obviously everything is for an amazing reason. And Yeah, yeah, it's true. I mean I'm not gonna lie. I did go meet Joe Right after that and he was in Camden by the spoons and shit was going down. We had a party there, like it was straight off. Oh, why, if you did see like the last story, the last story was in the night where I filmed. Yeah, I saw that, but it didn't look like anything more than six people. Now it was waiting.

Hold those way more, but way back there, that was like our area we will being it was. Yeah, it was quite good. People were pulling. I didn't go last of one number, but I didn't pull hm. I. Yeah, never but I'm not gonna say that. But mm yeah, man, it was a it was a it was a good time and that was a really good day. It was like nice protest, meaningful and then just shit face. Yeah, honestly, like, I have never been more jealous of you. Like that would not look like a banging day. Literally, I think all I was doing that day was in fucking bed. So met somebody. The madness it will come me. I don't know what gals leaving the house is going to be like, but all I know is that I want to be there for its. That's okay. Actually, just vlog the whole thing. Fuck, I'm sure it'll be just incredible just to get that fresh, fresh, that fresh, that good shit, that old, you fast, that hundred percent old to me. Just where the Google glasses, man, where the Google glasses? I want it all. I want to see it all through your rides, but I I'm not gonna how it. How you been? Sorry, yeah, I just went before I answer that. I'M NOT gonna lie. I had like a mental break down out of the day when I realized that, like, although after lookdown like obviously I'm going to see you guys and I'm going to be out and about and actually have a life again. But then I had like a mental breakdown with lax when we both realize like, AH, shit, your family is going to be paranoid. Right, we're many good to see each other. Hi. That's passive thing. But yeah, wait, as in, like your fault. You think you're going to you're going to be still very cautious about leaving. Well, I'm not, because I'm a DICKHEAD. Yeah, I know that. She well, she isn't going to be. Her family is going to be on our case with just like just taking precautionary measures in all that bullshit. And Yeah, it's going to be a little mad. But we did come to the resolution that, like, if it is shit for the rest of the year, we might have to come out to your parents and actually be legal. That's like good. Mean, I mean that's gonna be great content. That's going to be amazing. Man, you think the Camera Mat don't you? Then I just take the camera and I take talking to her dad's like hey, say how to the path had to the Audi Gang, the embryos. I don't think we still calling them that own. I don't know. That was that was a joke that didn't even last in the episode. Yeah, man, but yeah, that's going to be so, I mean, do you want to go into like why she hasn't white? Oh, just typical brown vibes. I wouldn't say yeah, I would say, like it's just I think it's just default to just imagine everyone is going to get arranged marriage, and so then they kind of assumed, like they had like the marriage chat with her the other day or like we're probably going to get you married off like when you're twenty five, and like we got people asking now and they stand o. Then I'm just like fuck's that's the madness. But what was going to say? Yeah, so then I think it's just because of that and all that shit is it's it's a little mad to like bring up that. You're going against the whole curve and all that, but I guess when you need to, you need to. And I also said let's just delay it before because I just feel like if they find out, it's a lot of them getting involved with our our shit and some shit should be personal until can't help it. Really in it. Yeah, is it, but there's also is there like there's something excited about Snee yes, they don't. Ye know, it's like what fat guse wanted to live his life at the time. I'M gonna have to reenact that for a couple more years I'm dead. Trust me. I'm telling twenty five this. Yet I shouldn't be played. I shouldn't be doing this bullshe of lying to my parents. Are sneaking out and like try to like hide my foote. Oh, I think the other day my brother bought his kid over. Yeah, and so then my parents obviously loved their grandson and everything like that. So then they're like seeing them like that is so like beautiful, but like especially my dad. He but he becomes one of the kids, right. So then he's just like giving toys to the Little Kid. And then he just picks out my phone and he's just I'll play with this,...

...and it's like my background snacks me. I'm just like Nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Did you snatch it? Did he did? He ask me why? Why don't you? was like a Karen snatch me it was a carn snatch. It was at, Nope, you don't have the right for that, sir. And then he just he just looked at his laughing. He didn't he didn't get offended or anything about that, God blessed. But yeah, I was at. I can't get into that right now. He didn't it. Didn't ask you. Why are you not letting your nephew play with you? It's just a little boy, exactly. He needs to be shuttered from the world. You'll get this this thing at soon enough. No, he doesn't have to happen now. Exactly. You probably beat that line like a year's time. I'm just saving him like three, six, five. That's all. Yeah, apart from that, what have I been up to, sir? What have you been up to? Gaus? Thank you, man. Like I said, Queer eyes back loving it. Haven't cried yet, which is which is a great, great thing. The first episode was probably one favorite so far. It was it was a gay pastor, as a priest. I'm not sure, a gay priest. Let's go with gay priest. And basically I can't. You can't be a gay priest because, please, can be a pastor, you can be a pastor, you can be a reverend, you can be, what's the other word? A preacher, I guess. Yeah, Huh, yeah, he's any of the above and basically they're they're kind of like because he kind of came out very late in his life. A lot of his like mannerisms, fashion and like livelihood is just like a little somewhat ashamed of him, I guess, ashamed of his identity, and like them doing the whole fab five thing of just making him love his identity. And it was beautiful, man. You gotta love that Shit. Wait, so, as I was he was, he out. Was He he was out, but basically he kind of came out so late in his life that he just felt he felt like he could, because a lot of what happens is generally people come out quite early enough to experiment and find their selves right. And you could just tell he's doing everything of what he should be, he should look like, rather than what he wants to or what he thinks he is, and you could just seem like convert himself to slightly just to be more comfortable with you. Is and even like he started preaching in the Church of like saying stuff like I want this to be a church where the kind of church that I didn't have growing up, and I think that that that kind of caught me because, like you kind of assume religion is against just home of homosexual was generally. Yeah, at least I see as while the than the traditional three. Yeah, so then I just feel like him saying that it is as like shit. There's like another form of it where you can get the religion without the hatred, and that that was kind of beautiful to like see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's a lot of actually the because there's like Catholic, so the Christianity is broken down and Catholic and Protestants. Yeah, Catholic is just Catholic or where you see all the big chapels and the churches, and then the Protestants is Protestant is the one that a King Henry made up right. Well, I mean that that's yeah, that that's technically kind of it's kind of more in between. Be It because not Catholic, than yet it's it's it's a Protestant because it has a lot of Catholic like the core, like Che Juge of England in it. Yes, yes, Church of England's a lot of like similar prayers. It's I think this sing in Latin sometimes. So there's a lot of similar things with with Catholicism. But so it's Church of England is more similar to Catholicism than all the Protestants churches. But yeah, but the Protestant church is actually are the ones were like they were like, we're not fucking with what these guys are doing. I'm going to start our own shit. And because of that, because of experience, changed and Catholicism and, you know, Church of Engl with pretty much just say the same. They don't change just as quickly as those churches do, as others do. That you a lot of those judges are adopting a lot more like lgbtq friendly policies and Catholicism is basically like you just kind of puts it on, like brushes on them to the carpet like well, we know human beings are human being, but they don't fully like embrace. Well, that's the thing I do find it. I find the interest. I find like the LGBT LGBTQ plus community and how religion plays on it very interested...

...because a lot of the time people like that home fobes. They use religion against them. But as far as I know, from like the Bible, the parts of it where I've read, and the Vedas for Hinduism and stuff like that, I find it into interesting that most both religious texts do have like gay individuals in them. They do have people and they do have like the godly characters actually accept them and not even make a big deal out of them. And it's funny how, like over time things has changed and things have been like there. Well, there was something in the Queer I episode where the the the path still was saying how there is a piece of the text that does have this person, has a partner who is a male as well, and that's been changed to of just a friend. And similar happens in like Hinduism, where like people will be like a quite out gay and then over time rewritings and really like structurings of the story have just made them like a less important character or just just basically straight, and I just find that interesting. It's just like it isn't a text because at the end of the day it makes sense. If not, this is the word of an Apeist, so take this with a bit of so, but like and the end of the day if, like the earliest man wrote the religion for whatever continent day and at the end of the day they would have based it on whoever the people they are, on them right. So there's obviously going to be freaking like every kind of person is like it's yeah, but I don't know if the Bible had gay characters. I think that there's. There's like interpretations where they say they think only yeah, I actually yeah, same thing they did do with the literature. I don't know about the other ones, but it did. But like the like homophobes tend to go. They say things like yeah, you know, I'm like, the Bible says things like, you know, a man shall not lie with another man, and then the take that and then but it's like the Bible says loads of things that we don't follow anymore. And it's similar. It's like poor can not supposed to eat pork in the Bible, and it's likely, yeah, because in not another and then it makes sense back because back in the day, if you fucking ate pork, probably die because you don't, because you don't know that you have to cook it. Yeah, you have to have to cook it really like I give to cook it a low cooked. Yeah, and then it's like, yeah, we don't want people to die, let's just put pork about. Don't eat pork. Yeah, I've seen three people die from pig. Just don't be here. Whatever advice. I don't know why they put like, you know, a man's not like with another man, but it could have could have meant something completely different as nothing to do, just bump its. Yeah, yeah, that was they took. But I mean, yeah, I think it's good. I mean things are moving forward and, as slow as it may feel for everyone, anyone that's, you know, been chastised by society, things are moving forward and things and the longer these ideas are like for at the mainstream, the longer the the the easy and quicker they will be accepted. Yeah, any progress is progress and the end the day, and the more you make good people I think I said the same thing on one of the George Floyd episodes. Any time you make good people feel uncomfortable, only good things come out of it. HMM. Well, they they said they tend to ask the right questions which go in the right direction. Simple as I'd say, open people. Open people. That's true, because it because, like you know, you think about like your grandparents are? They're probably good people. What they had a have a lot problematic. The definitely not exactly. It's like everyone. It's like I you don't want to hear on my Granddad sail my white people. It's like whoolf whoof I never heard it, but it's been it's been parted. I've heard his back. Yeah, but you, I was gonna go go on. Gont know. You got first. I don't know. You FAB yeah, I insist you. You bless you, bless your heart, girls. Yeah, blessed. Okay. Well, well, I want to say is that I want you to go first. Well, I wanted to say, what's your take of the week? To Talk Fabulous. All right. Well, actually I wanted to really take a look at that, that JK rowling situation, right, because you did you hear about? Yeah, you've heard about how, you know, she was accused of being transphobic on twitter and social media and the media comment and like all these newspapers and online newspapers...

...decided to to kind of, yeah, report it, and I think she got a lot of unfair treatment of being accused as being Trans phobic. I think it's a very because I think you, because I want to go like a lot. I've written some notes and I want to go like step by step and evaluate in specific points that you mentioned. And okay, I think I yeah go. And first of all, let's just should we just define, and I obviously, like you know, anyone watching wants to chip in. And what's The correctors? Like we're like it's in description where two idiots talking. This is definitely like two guys, right, at least for me, it's we got two guys try and understand the world's and life. Yeah, and we're not I would have any pre judgment. You know, we want everyone to be free do what they want, and this is really Amandam yeah, freedom and but yes, if you do have any comments on how stupid we are, are we don't have pot a, gmailcom or are we done yet on IG please? We need someone talking to us. Yeah, but yeah, go for it. Audience engagement hasn't been the the thing that's did out the most. Yeah, hold on, give me two seconds. All right. Should we just go like so, well, I think I saw Daniel Radcliffe. I saw, yeah, Emma Watson. I saved. I've saved some of the tweets. I've saved JK rowlings tweets, Daniel Radcliffe tweets, and I was going to say you were about to define transphobia. Is that what you're going to go to, though? Well, I was going to go with I think. I think we start from like the fundamentals. So, so essentially transfer to the Trans Experience. As far as I understand, and again, like I've just done some research on it, obviously I've not experienced it first hand and even though I've talked and and I'm cool with Trans People, like I don't have any of them in my media friendship group. Just being honest. Yeah, so I think it starts, as far as I'm aware, it starts with a body dysmorphia. So human being is born and then that human being feels like the sex that it was assigned isn't what it what it what he feels inside. It feels like he's in the wrong body and a lot of a lot of people get that and some of them tend to become they become trans people. So were a man, a man who was assigned a female anatomy or a woman. That was a sign and male anatomy at birth. Right. I think that's that's my understanding of it, and that's perfect from the tweets. I think that the the way they're approaching jk rowling is, I think everyone for yet Emma Watson, they all Ratcliffe. They said a trans woman is a woman. That they they said something to that. Yeah, as in you are what you identify as. Yeah, which, you know what, I'm not gonna lie. You're saying that she's not coming across as transphobic to you. Right, yeah, so you just say, I she's not. To me, she's not hating or fearing transgender people, but she isn't nowhere near understanding them, and I think she's if anything, she's very misinformed. I personally think. Okay, okay, well, I don't God, God, go sorry because I've written because I tried to pay attention to what was said. And then all right, and then I think it's also important to go into because to me it's like, as far as I understand, again, and I'm happy to have to chat with anyone, but it's it's like to me, there's there's it's like there's this, two types of men and two types of women. So so there's men, who there's men, and then this, there's men. And Trans Ment are men and says men and men, Trans Women and women, and SYS women women. And yet yeah, and I think that that's the framework that she may have missed, even though she always called Trans Women Trans Women. I don't think that there's something wrong with it because also, per personally, I think there is a distinction, even though, like, I don't see myself as I don't see myself as being different to women that that, but I think sex does play into how you identify. And Yeah, for instance, it's I only attracted to cys women, which means that there has to be something to that. There has to be a common...

...experience that they have. Okay, that's that's not worth it, because then I'm basing their common experiences. But in terms of like this, it has to be a common CIS experience, because so many sis people only go for each other, even though there's loads of CIS people who open and they go go for anyone that they love. Were more like SAFEO sexual and there's there's that, but there's also an equal there's a far higher amount of CIS people who just like sis people and are actually not open today, and I don't think it's a it's a bad thing. I don't think they're judging, but I just think that it's it's caused for pause to think about all of this conversation and why it's so complex and why we shouldn't maybe think harder before we judge others and call them out on being transphobic or yeah, got. What do you think? What do you have to say about that? Well, see, there, in my opinion, the her first tweet was was an if you want, and I believe a lot of people that were transgender took took it offensive, and I understand why they would. But her second tweet, what is will caught me when, like, she started mocking people, and that's when I thought, I'm not gonna lie, she's doing on purpose. Now she's not like because, like, I'm just going to I'm just going to read how it tweets. You. Her first twee goes, if sex isn't real, then no same sex attract then there's no same sex attractions. If sex isn't real, the lived reality of women globally is raised. I know and Love Trans People, but eraising the concept of sex removes the ability of many too meaningfully discussed their lives. It isn't hate to speak the truth. Okay, I'm leaving that one as it is. The second one kind of pissed me off. Basically, she's commenting on an an article regarding the covid nineteen AIDS that are given to people who mentor it and and that's what that's what the article said, people who meant yeah, and and it was like people who mentruate. I'm sure you used to I'm sure they used to be a word for those people. Someone helped me out. And then she goes on mocking different ways of saying women without saying women, and I think that's what like. The thing is they are all like trans men who meant straight. There are women who can't, men strate. There is as in like. It's it's not. Obviously we are in two thousand and twenty. We can't say only women men'struate. It's. It might sound in my son Weird to say that our love, but it is true at the end of the day. Right, yeah, and in like. And I just because that this I understand maybe where she's coming from in the sense she's seeing it in her very I know what this is literally what I thought she is. I think, I think personally that she she she's been an active feminist right as and like most of her life. So I think, and and I think I'm pretty sure early days when she was trying to release have Harry Potter, she had a struggle because of like her being a woman was fucking up the situation. Like if she was a man she would have been being the probably shit much earlier is she. I've heard she the reason because she used jk rowling is to because she was told the boys wouldn't read. Yeah, a woman, if if a woman wrote it. Yeah, exactly. So then I understand that as a woman she's faced a whole load of hardship and she takes that one stride and that's why she's become who she is being activists in saying what she wants say. But I think personally, I think this whole thing of her thinking in that this transgender people within the circle, maybe she has this ideology of like it takes away from her hardship as a woman because, like these people are like men who are well in her head, biologically, men who I did, identifying as women, and in our eyes she is not the same. They're not the same, and I think that's playing on her, but I just there's something so wrong with by those treets to me. All Right, I think hold on. She can. I I've taken some notes about the the article that she mmm, that she wrote, which I think might be quite enlightening, because I'm just from her perspective, because I don't think it's that. I think so. She said, she brought up some interesting points that are valid, I think, and they were thoughtful and new ones. She said that some new trans laws are...

...pushing to erode the legal definition of sex and replace it with gender. HMM, and she has. She I think she processed that and she grew a fear of the impact that those laws will have under, I think, she said, on her charitable efforts for female prisoners, women, women who have survived domestic and sexual abuse, because she which really involved with those causes in Scotland. Yeah, yeah, and which is which is interesting. It's like it's a fair thing. It's like, you know, if you think from her perspective, she's had to fight to to to have women. They've been marginalized be heards and then now by let's let's read more. Now she's by having I think what's happening is that the conversation is put in. Everyone in at having their sort of sexual and gender identity is sort of existential crisis, because now we've got to come up with more language, better language that's more inclusive, and I don't think it's perfect yet, because she has those she has those cold it could be. It could get that, I think, if I think it will. Yeah, so. So I think the fact that, you know, replacing, when you replace the legal definition of sex with gender and you say that now you know there is no such thing as sex. Essentially you can't be legally defined with your sex. It's all of gender. You take away from her efforts by, let's say, what am I trying to think? Like, yeah, like see people, people mention a lot of like, you know, women only safe spaces, like you know when. So, that's before Trans, the Trans Movement was involved. Women only safe bit spaces was basically what today would see as Siss women only. Not even siss women, because it will be lesbians as well. But yeah, but anyways, sort of be like people who's sexual assignments and gender identity aligns to those people, those women women who were born women and identified as women. They had saved spaces because of things like, you know, the mess abuse, sexual abuse, yeah, where only women can work there, and oftentimes women that good that go through that. And the introduction of I think Trans People is making a lot of people because a lot of people agreed with JK rown a lot of women, a lot of siss women agree with JK Rowling, and so it's like Oh, wait, lesbians assist women. Duh. Yeah, yeah, sorry, my bad, my bad, I because it's hard to like navigate through the now language because it's fairly youth for me as well. I actually searched up what sisters today. I do know one to did you know that was a term? I vaguely knew it, but I definitely googled it when I was like whenever I told you about we should discuss the Jakob role. YEA, and yeah, but I, yeah, never went. So, yeah, so I think sis sits women, you know, have like you know, the me too move. There's certain situations that where they've been marginalized and they've been put aside and they've been really victimized and they've had to come out of the other end and create these spaces to help them heal, and I mean to some degree there's a lot of sis women who feel like that. That's law changing could make could put that place in a nick could have introduce an extential threat because now a man about the intention, man can excuse and it's also brought up the fact that now the certificates, the gender certificates, they don't require you to have like surgery or all hormones. So which means that right, I could basically get what. I could say I'm a woman, and I mean, obviously I'm sure there's less more recalls than that, but I'm but it's there's the theories that I'm discussing, the fear and what people are talking about. I yeah, go ahead, you know what, that does make sense. That does make sense to some extent. But then there's also the fact that, like, I guess you're saying, like she I'm seeing she says something on the Lenes of his all I've I've heard from another like sounds like if, like,...

...men who identify as women. Yeah, if men are who identify as women can go into the women's both rooms and stuff like that. So what's stopping like a man that is is fucked in the head and wants to fuck up life and to do the same. But then what happens to the man who identifies out of the woman? Isn't that just degrading them? And Yeah, identify to go back into the men's room. All right. Well, my point is is, like, that's that, that's the question, that, that's the Lemma, that's the problem. That hasn't been solved, in my opinion, because there is a discussion being had. I'm not saying that she's right in her solutions. I'm saying that and I don't even think she's really saying it. She's just saying that people like sit, a lot of SYS women, are being silence for expressing these views, and that's actually the original problem. And then you could also that makes sense and you could. You could go further than that as well, but it's, I'm saying that, the reason this conversation needs to be had and it's good for everyone. Because, of course, you, we don't want to. No one wants to be exclusive. Well, I we being you. We don't want to be exclusive to anyone. We don't want to being inclusive. We're not want to be to when. Sorry, you fucking around. Fuck, sorry, I'm saying that. We kind of like like to be inclusive with people right, like, yes, and of course I don't really judge. I don't judge anyway, and you know, the whole like judge a person by the continent of the character, not the now it's like not a continent the skin, but like it's also like, you know, gender, sexual orientation, just who they are. That's how judge people. But in because I think the Trans Movement was ignored for so long and was kept at the margin of society for so long, you're having these dilemmas in terms of like how best to integrate and I think the thing to do is be, you know, express yourself, but don't go in but going around and calling someone transphobic for who's thinking. She's thinking through it. She might have come to the wrong conclusion, but she's thinking through it and she's trying to just say express what her concerns are with how it might be. I think that they're I think you're right. I do, I do agree with that, and it is a question that needs to be answered and needs to be answered to a better degree. But I think the problem here is that the person asking the question, in a very poorly phrase manner, is someone that was caught in several other transphobic esque scandals last year and the she has had a history of this and she's been some she's had a history of supporting my force to with the whole like when she was when she was generally just a transit transpho. And but the way that JK rowling was picturing her and like trying to like painting is that, oh, she said something that was actually what you should say, but she was fired for it, when in fact I was completely misinformed and the court case was otherwise, and then she was actually ruled as a transfer. But it's I do agree with you, I understand, but like she's kind of in the article she's she brings up interesting different examples and she says the only reason she's writing about it is because publicly she was like the the way that came out is when she liked a tweet on accident by someone who was supposedly transphobic, and she was. She was doing what she said that she was studying and she used to take these what's it called the scream savers of yeah, of tweets to like think through things, which I do too, like sometimes that doesn't me. Yeah, and she absolutely liked it, and then, because she's J K Rowling and she's like massive, people like, oh, she just liked this sweet she didn't even realize it. And then from that on it she she was in a way forced to make her these public because now she's being scrutinized. Now they're like, you're transphobic, tell me you're not. Now she has to go. Here's what I think right now. It was it would be easier for her to just stay quiet and be like I support Trans Women and Trans men and and be and but then as soon as you go deep into like the the definition and how it how it how it affects the world and how best to do it, people have varying I've seen a lot of youtube videos like now about this and people are varying opinions. And this trans people who support her, there's trans people, transactivists, who totally hate her and say that she should die in our violent language and all this shit like it's so it's a conversation that's seemingly...

...going to carry on for a long time. But I think, yeah, the argument that she she was forced to have an opinion when she was still learning, that does make sense and I think now she just has to update her opinion as it goes and the same it's the same thing that we do. Like. You know, I I did like what her representative said, or when I think or when I think that happened, or when she released her statement about Maya, and like a representative then when and said, I'm afraid JK rowling had a clumsy and middle aged moment. I'm sorry, but like such a serious conversation, but like when someone says I'm sorry about her, she's just not a little she's not all right in their head. Something by my name. It's just clumsy in middle aged it's like I was talking about GRANDPA. Sorry, if I'm a grandparents, definitely different time. They don't they don't mean to be racist, but also like what's the middle aged moment? The like stopping to think, like halfway through, forgetting the cancer tacks. Yeah, I forget. That's that's Middlis right. We're a doN'TS weendow stuff. That's right. That's hilarious. Yeah, that's funny. Bringing it back to what you were talking about, okay, I was very much on the sheer transfer, transfer side and I still have to some extent but I do understand there are some question that she's asking. That our valid. Yeah, I wrote done a few a few more examples. Like she says, there's been a four thousand four hundred percent increase of young girls in Britain being referred to transitioning treatments, and that like in the last ten years. So it used to be boys like wanting to be trans transitioning your women and there's in the last ten years. Now it's like overwhelming, like girls Forzero, four hundred percent inquase of young girls being referred to transition treatment and that autistic girls are all really represented in that statistic. So because, because I think there's a lot of it's such a like you know, you'll speak us. Spoken to a few trans women mostly. I've never spoken to transman. I don't think we trans women. I I've only ever talked to a transmantuve. Now she talked to her Trans Women. Really, yeah, because, yeah, and not like like someone who was assigned as a man as in the I don't done was identifies as a man who was biologically a yes, yeah, Oh, really, Oh nice, we're go ahead. And then and it's like their story is so specific and it's such a individual journey that it there's so much variation into it that it's hard. I think there's a lot of people that are treating, and I helping in Supporting Trans people, like at the moment they even figuring it out how best to do it. There isn't like you know your NHS, you know, symptom diagnosis, solution, like it's not like that. It's like it's a deed in a journey that that that goes and then and then she also mentioned that there's a lot of transition regret, like and I looked into it and in two thousand and eighteen there was eight percent. And I'm not saying she got didn't say it as if like to the me the fact that Trans people exist, but she just said but in terms of like when kids transition and given hormones, like and then they regret, like that's a type of like if they have surgeries, it's you can't go back from that, you know. So it's it's there's a lot. There's a lot that's going to affect a lot of people. Is that there's a lot of happening that affects a lot of people that has to be heeling through clee and to do that you need to have these varying perspectives and I understand that. Like the Trans Community, like any like any minority really, you know they like well, you know as soon as we start, you know looking into the new ones and you know we express out louds as a people that we're not sure about. You know, this particular way of that we're doing this. The mainstream takes it, takes it over and finds a way to poke halls and it diminishes everything we've done so far. But then I think the problem is when you don't and you when you you need to find people with opposing views and listen to like new to you and a nuance way to grow, to improve things. If you just calling people transphob it would just thinking through it. Even if they behind you, they don't understand the whole thing is fully as you do, you just end up killing the conversation. You're not making people either support you to the...

Max or go to the other side to the Max when it thank you to have more people in the middle. I mean it says a lot that both of us are just average men, like as in like we we're we but thing is both of us don't. Both of us had to research quite a lot into just the technicalities of just Trans Gender to actually had this conversation. Right. Yeah, because at the end of the day, the everyday man or woman doesn't know enough about this stuff, of course. And and I check the statistics and, Whoa, I only found the US ones, but each state has like less than one percent of their population as transgender. So it's just so it's so difficult to have this conversation without having it to actual person who knows the story, knows what they're talking about. That I do agree that. It's kind of similar to how, like all publicity is good publicity. So I think is sense of like transferable or not. The fact that she's the fact that she said this and the fact that we're having conversation, the fact that we're both educating each other about this and trying to educate our three listeners about this. It's it's a good thing. I I I'm with you on that. I'm with you. Yeah, I think so. And she's doing it, I think, from a good place and she's just expressing her concerns as well, and it's uncomfortable. It's like any meaningful conversation that you imagine, any meaningful conversation that you've had with your family. It's always better to think like that. It's like it was uncomfortable as fuck. Something that was really worth while was uncomfortable and then you found like, Oh shit, the dynamics have changed. You know, yes, by my mom with dad stopped treating me this way, but he had to be like uncomfortable before hundred two and and I think too, because everyone's a yeah, go on, sir. I was going to say the other day I heard my dad. I was I was upstairs in my room, but I had my dad say something and say some, something on the lines of like, Oh shit, it's not all black man. He did still say companies, but okay, baby steps, a gay baby stiff. He's like it's not all about a black man's like America's just hell a racial to them. I love how he never says racist. He says racial. I just I just find that very fun. But America's very racial to them, but like there are good ones and it's just is is horrible. What's happening to them was like Shit, check you up with you right. But then imagine if he was someone like imagine if someone filmed that, yeah, and then put it out like you, you get storms of black active it saying, oh no, yeah, there's some good ones. What does that mean? Like that, you sort of dissect everything and it's like he's just a man trying to understand the world that he's in. Like all of us, he's just a clumsy middle aged rights you just having a middle aged moment. That's yeah, you know, counter attacks, but like, I don't know about I think as a person, for calling you you got all. I think. I think actually for anyone of any color, any creed, any religion, any sex, any gender, any I don't know, I think you got them all. Boro. Yeah, boom, any one of those like you got to take a few hits, man, you could. No one's gonna. No one's gonna to be able to understand you better than you. No one's gonna be able any mind mind you better than you and Al What's going to be able to find your group better than your group. Exactly what you have to do? That that's the amount of times I saw like we had a talk about this, whereas in like we actually had episodes on the whole black lives movement, but I found it interesting how many podcasts what they did was, oh, I'm not going to release an episode this week, I'm going to release it next week, but I'm going to release someone else's podcast who is better educating you at this situation. And it's like usually it was a podcast of like black people like actually talking about the situation, and it's just like is the situation for any minority's like. For the majority to understand you, you got actually voice up or then no one's gonna understand. And I but I do understand, I do appreciate why so much is going against jk rowling and I understand like question you identity and questioning your who you are is is the biggest hit of all hits and in the day right. So I I completely understand why this attacking motion happens. But this conversation is needed because if we think that JK rowlings bad, let's be honest, like she is not. She might be worse in real life as in what she says, but like what they say about like transgender people, what they say about Queer people and stuff like that, it's much worse than that and the more we talked about them, the less taboo becomes in the less the less this is news and more this is actually just educating ourselves. MMM, I think. Yeah, but then I think with someone like jk Rowling, she's been quite consistently...

...progressive. Like this is the only issue, I think, that people have reposter against. That's true. That, I think. The only other one was I think that she's, I don't know, maybe like a capitalist or whatever, but it's like so low as a pet. That's how bazzard with money, man, yeah, exactly gonna Happen to us when we were when we're rich. Guys, just start listening right now. But like, I think she has the quite consistent, pop, consistent public persona that is progressive, accepting of others, inclusive. So I think instead of people being like Whoa, here's what I know about, this is where I've been here, and you're like, all right, why would someone like that be saying those things if he think that they're wrong? But maybe there's something to it. It might be sixty percent wrong, and then the thing to do is to educator, is not to call names, not to fucking like, not not to tell her to go get sexually abused. What happens? And Yeah, man, it's crazy. And then also there's the fact that a lot of other SI women feel the same like and so they must be and I'm not. And I know people can be like, well, how about this? Loads of far right people in England like, how about them Lt? And it's like actually think, yeah, you've got to start listening to them. I'm not saying that you have to fucking like you don't act like them, you don't mimic them, but you have to listen to those concerns to get any sort of any sort of progress going. And under the to do is, when you hear it is you should be like, all right, as this crossed the line. Yeah, how many people feel like that? All right, this is quite a vocal minority, but still there's quite a lot of people. How do we change their minds? How do how do we go about that? So I try solving a problem rather than just getting in your feelings about it. And I'm not talking that. I'm not saying that about like Trans People. I'm talking about, yeah, all the others sis people that I saw saying fucked up shit to jko Rowling, like those lot. I just the the simple words. It called the mob mentality. That happens, whenever the situation happens, and it's only got worse because of that, because of twitters and instance of the world. It's just the as in like the idea of just being a mob socially or about cyber socially is just so easy that getting on someone's hate training is just too far not to miss out. Basically. And Yeah, I do feel you, I do fool you, but yeah, you mentioned thods of other things, man, but I'm not sure. Let me see. Yeah, she mentioned something quite interesting you that she said that between sixty and nine percent of Gender Dos, Fig Sea and teams will go out of their dysphoria, which is interesting. I didn't know that. We're repeat that between sixty and ninety percent of gendersphoric teens will grow out of their dysphoria and I oh, I saw that'll grow out of it or out of it. So I think, all right, I have I think it's like taking a back seat and it's like admitting and saying what a lot of trans people are saying is like this is a personal journey, thing that we need a support. The thing that we need is the ability to be ourselves, to be included in society as equals. Right, yeah, and and then I but then, you know, I think then it's like you hear something like that sixty nine percent genders fig teens will grow out of their dysphoria. Is like, well, are you going to give hormones to the kids? If it is? What if when he grows up grows out of it? It's and I I've heard some people, some trans people, say that that's a that's, you know, an argument that people use against trends, and I don't. I think that's statistic. It's a fact and it might be an argument that people that are transphobic UES, it doesn't make it less true that all around the world is that. You know, know that. That's that's I think that's us. But I did see we should we should reference it after a while. Our reference in a bit. Not, but it's in the her essay and if you but I think it's fastening. It's fascinating and I don't think that looking at facts should warrant you like death threats and be on Ane. Yeah, and the end of the day, stats are stats. Anyone that says no, I'm with you on that front, as in like, if you'll bring up those kind of facts. I do understand that. And then, all right, sorry. And then then, if you coupled it with what I said that she said, which is that she's fighting for, for the most part, since women rights. Yeah, and then the fact that in the last ten years, four thousand, there's been a four thousand, four hundred percent increase. Insists...

...in, insist, women identifying. No, in, sorry, because it just people genders for me, identifying as men. Yeah, and actually that was said wrong. Hold that. We've we've got to be really careful with these words. Go for it. There's been a four thousand, four hundred percent increase in people were signed female sex, I identifying as trans and then so. And then there's also like a big part of that was people were signed the female sex at birth who happened to also be all stic this proportional represented within that figure. Right. So, if you think about it, that's everything that she stands for. That's actually the thing about who's the Boislers, who society throughout the ages hasn't listened to as well. They'd say they take part of they part of that. So it's like it's a quick, a crazy landscape where these is all these pockets of struggles and I've all been marginalized, and then when you try to integrate them, sometimes there's a clash. And if, as soon as a clash happens, you show you call each other out on not being accepting, on being anti on being racist, on being as soon as that happens for this you're never going to solve the problem. You're never going to happen. You're going to be worse for everyone and this conversation will keep happening. So that's kind of it's all I wanted. That's that's I think. Yeah, we've covered with copy enough. I think that's what my message is. Not to say that like anyone's right or wrong. Obviously I support Trans People. You know you do. You I love. I'll love anyone that's a nice person. I embrace anyone whatever. You know all the cliches human races, don't the human races? Dope, it can be. It can be. fucking okay. Who? Yep, forgot about that disclaimer. And Yeah, and yeah, and then she basically, at the end end of the essay, are in people for empathy and for nuance and for nuance and complex and cold and complex opinions and it's like that's not it's a quite a reasonable request. She did. She wasn't art there attacking, she didn't have hate, she just had a disagreement, which maybe she did something to what she's saying or maybe she's wrong, but regardless, she thinks there's therefore she the conversation must happen because it's other people think like her. And okay, I do agree with that. That is like a dinner of the day while we if we don't actually get to voice out opinions. Exactly, freedom of speech, like, Oh all right, hold on, I wrote another one that that's hold that thought. That's really what I'm standing for, is that ability to discuss things, not hate, but just with a good, kind heart and ask questions and just state your opinion and then, a bee be ready to be wrong. Hold on. She gave the example of like an American physician and researcher who called here. She's called Lisa Littman, and she published paper showcasing phenomena where entire friendship groups were transitioning at the same time like like, obviously, like kids. Yeah, and her paper got a lot of backlash. And listen, Littman was, I canceled and the Journal took the paper offline, but because of the Science Journal, it reviewed it and then republished it right showing that there is some real scientific merit to that specific paper. So it's like it's and just the paper being there doesn't say anything about it. Just it's just. You have to be able to see life for what it is and if you don't, then a lot of worse problems come far ahead, and I think that's just experience of the world. All right, man, so I lost been going on these last last few weeks. One Guy who's just one, two and twenty. No doubt the cash is nine Bro. Let's go bro, let's go great. Yeah, yeah, I want to start with the fact that was it is is album are or is it a post an instant? I'm not sure. He like literally a week after he got released, he literally just posted a picture of like a wrath. Yeah, and I'm just like brought you're winning the world at this point, like Ted leading to all that shit that's been buoying you off for months and just I admit. And then like two songs with what is it was Gooba, with Nicki Minaj as well.

I think it's it was her, not Google wasn't with Nicki Minaj, but he's got he's got one tea so much they just came out. Yeah, no, but was he solo and Google was was the thinking about? Yeah, you what he was. So I'm pretty sure it was. So it's just like, but to be completely honest, album outwise, they both look exactly the same. I feel like he shot them both on the same day. Just efficient shooting. Bro like the amount of money he's lost from this writing hand stand why he's going for the stingy approach. But like I respect that, but Jesus mad he's definitely keeping that same mistake. Like shoots in the same rooms, same colors, same things, seems same as he's fucking hair gets me every fucking time. I can't believe that, like straight after everything that went down for him, he end up, what, beating all records for like the most viewed music video twice. I think he beat his own record, right, most watch music video most. I think he's got the biggest instagram, live like in some yeah, it's live, like. No one's hit numbers like that. Not Drake, not Nicki Minaj, not aody in the swift h not Alady, not all the yeah, definitely not awesome. How, how silent are we done yet? Instagram live, be right, we've been no one there, just it's just random lood. He would even join. It's just good old jazz man already. Guy Actually Reps. it sinks. Anyway. Well, I want to say, I want to touched on the whole situation because, like I knew that he was part of this gang. I think it's called like the train IMS or whatever. Yeah, he didn't grow up as part of the gang, but when he started rapping, this guy was part of a gang. He got there and he got the protection and then he got big by basically beefing with like real, real guys. You should be like, it's real. Yeah, yeah, like real calling and pussy, you like, and then go into their city and then like performing there, and it was a it was a crazy shit show that could only end up in how it how it ended up, how we ended up, which what we saw was he went to jail and for and then he write it on his gang. But well, I want to do is I want to go and I want to break down what the gangers and what the rules are. All right, because I've I've dive I've don't deep deeper into the conversation of like what happened. And all right, let me just start work. Gangs. So you become a part of a gang, and a gang in theory, is like a brotherhood's a Brotherhood engage in the variety of like antisocial behavior, like drug selling, stealing, rubbing, and then being part of a gang is adhering to an agreement to always have each other's backs no matter what. We can have a conflict, but that's family business. We handle it inside. No one outside needs to know this. Yeah, that's kind of the ethic. Just get stitches. Yeah, that's deeply and great right. And he trolls the hardest Nig as he can. He wins the world's over. It makes a lot of lizzy. Actually, that's good money. He makes a lot of green money, which to us is shit money, obviously because of the way the current sy exchange does. He Shit Bro Anyway, that's beside the point. We're both broke. Raw take them. Yeah, of course. Actually, anyone that's wants to give US dollars will take but we'll start picturing. I can't just tell us you're going to send US money and we'll start and then he gets loads of money because he's, you know, like a lot and then, because he's part of that Brotherhood, he has that duty of sharing it around and his friends a big shiny jewels. Rents are paid, Merk, suport and borrowed, I imagine. Yeah, and and he's doing it like his this gang is looking fly as Fark. They have all the all the Qutrimons of number two, three, fours and fives and six like. They look good there, live in Nice places and all that. It's what gangs do. They sit is like a it's like a demy social communist party or and so coming dripping in source as the could say, yeah, that's right, if we drift it. And I don't know why, but after a while I heard, and this is true, this is confirmed, one of his boys shagged his misses, the mother of his child. Yeah, one of his Gat fellow gang members, the mother's while six nine was on tour making money and giving it to him. How crazy is that? Then his gang, his brotherhood, kidnaps him, beat him and recorded it and the world...

...saw it. I watched the video. It's true. You had to fucking had to. The kidnapped him and then he ran away and then he had to eat you. I was asking to get someone else's scar and shit, it was crazy. That's like the people that are part of his like brotherhood. Hey, yeah, and then they tried to kill him literally. Now the fans make some connections. They arrest everyone, and what do you do in that situation? You know that they won't have your back in prison. He's not even sure that they want actively try and kill him. That that's true. Why would he not snitch? What does he owe those guys? Like? I mean, I mean I was I was completely or. I was like I never gave a shit about it until I heard he was right. I was just like, I really Marie married. Yeah, I would easily like fuck you, father, I love you, but I mean, I I'll love you that much. You the code to me is like if if a bunch of people the side, they're going to break blaws and get money together and they are loyal to each other. I'm not I understand. Oh, you're pin of Shit for like doing this, but I mean, I don't saying it's like any any if I see any gang shit. And then they asked me and the police arrest me and they're like, Yo, what's up, Bro, I'm snitching. I'm not part of a gang. I've I've made sure real quick, real quick, I'm not even a doubt. But it's like, I don't know those guys and yeah, but no, I do get. What you mean. Is that if it's your boys and you've always kept each other's back. Yeah, there's a reason why I could take a ballocking for you exact because you would do the same for me. But if you're gonna fuck my missts, have me killed and then expect me not to Snitch, it's like how it's crazy, man, if he doesn't snitch. It's like if your boys, yeah, your people, then your gang, gang freedom, and if they all doing this, fucking snitch away. This is what this this people looking at people not writing him for snitching, is like everyone would have done that. And if you if this snitching, is this, if snitching is an active like street camera, Carza. Yeah, if the phrase snitches gets stitches, is that? Well, that into your bones and you stick to that code while you in that position, you know, honoring yourself all your gang. Yeah, you have Stockholm Syndrome, Bro, you have Stockholm Syndrome. You you've been there too long. You know what, I'm choosing my death. I might death better be by the hands of my boys, exactly like. You know, if you don't Snitch, they've been manipulating like a puppet. If you do that, you don't have a brotherhood. Yes, Marsh's be but a bitch. Yes, if you don't Snitch, you don't have a brotherhood, you have masters. You are literally a slave. You're working, and you, I mean, I guess, not literally a slave. I guess you. You are earning money, but you're you're sharing more than half of it with your Gangang you is this is a gang? Quite like, of course, gang guy. Yeah, Broh. And also, if revenge is what you want, for like, if you're in that position, you're like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, have revenge, and you know I'm part of distreet code. I'm going to I'M gonna pay some goons to go hallow them and kill them, you know, like because I'm a real gee, kill them for the continues betrayals. GANGAG think to do isn't to kill them or get them killed, because that gives them an out. The thing to do is betrayed them back like they've betrayed you and put them in accasion and years. They mean prison as long as possible. Yeah, that's the real revenge. In a way, anything, in a way. Actually, there's the most gangster thing to do. That's the most gangs of thing to do. Oh there, yes, genius, you're right, guards like some much steps and shit. You know what, it's not being being mean isn't cool, guy. Just cool is cool. Fuck on, fuck being power, gay pumping part of a gang. Overall fug being part of a gang gang, but fucking part of that gang gang. That's what I would say. I fucking with that at all. Choose your gang gangs wisely, guys. That's right. quietly. That was my take. I started thinking about him. I was like this, I mean apart from I mean it's not a good person, obviously, but quaziable fashion sense as well, very questionable. That's rich coming for both of us. So then we can say what we call me saying. What do you mean? I got sick fashion sense for exactly...

...both of us. Think that gang gang. Nah, it's crazy, man, these dudes. Ah, it's just because it's got I saw so many people I'm serious to sign. If I just don't understand people who. You have, people who aren't even part of gangs, like the Moose. People are like, Oh, yeah, listen to it, but I don't write him like how could it be? Be A sniche like? I'm like, Nah, no, Bro, like you, if you like his music, you go for it, because we've been privy to watch someone make bad decisions and we're prevy to now reevaluate what snitching means. SNITCHING will never be the same. Post nine, bro Fucking Tokashi changed the snitching game for everyone. I'm so proud of it. For Real, man, he made rats cool. That's what he did. I want to be a rat when I grow up. I want to be a rat and I want to have my right clothes, right with with rat dreads as well. That's right, multicolored hair. He's change the game, Bro, Oh my God, snitches in prison, they're are gonna have to be put in a different place. Now they'll be. He'll be general population, go'll be accepted. They don't what. They won't have to chill with a pedophiles and the rapist. He'll will be with the general population, because people are need people. Now, post s nine understand that snitches shouldn't get stitches. No, no, no, they they snitches be bad bitches. That's it's the best. I what. That's what I've went through the whole alphabet to find something that rhymes. I'M gonna TO DO? I'M gonna have to stick with bitches, but bad bitches. Oh Gosh, bad, but yeah, but he's changed the game. Change everything, change niche game. Bro I mean, I'll I just want to pout there that it went from Michael Bay to bad baby, and I'm all bad, bad, behind bobby, and I think the third one needs to Cashi. Yeah, ever already stands us. was the already stands Yo. Bud's the real guys, the real people change the game, people in as Stepton Gang Gang. But we've done yet. I think we are, Bro ten, Whoa jaw for now.

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