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Are We Done Yet

Episode 14 · 1 year ago

Ep12 CANCEL US!

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode, Fab goes psycho after losing the love of his life, Gowse gets canceled and we call out China!

I think we're just started. Hello, everybody, welcome back to the are we done podcast. We have gone past a ten episode mark, so I think this episode twelve, but I'm not sure that's because you're editing episode eleven and you blame me. I forgotten that. That's why you can't remember. Yeah, so welcome back. If we keep for those of you don't know us, I'm fat and he is gals and we have this little podcast together called are we done podcast. You did that. It's not listen. It was a brainstorm. Sa Fab came up with some shit about like one of them was like chocolate Caramel, blatantly racist. Just not two and twenty enough, and we we settled and always done. Yeah, okay, it made sense and you, ever was happy. And how he makes it seem like it was only my idea and it makes me feel really bad about it. It's all we done yet, already, Yoy, but you're kind of used to it now because I said are we done podcast the first time I announced it, you didn't say anything. So post on instant. I was trying to deet Geo target and I was trying to find all we done yet, and I didn't realize that I put under. Are we there? Blame me. I don't keep a shit about our branding pro cool. Good to know that. Yeah, my carelessness is rubbed off on you. I thought it was impenetrable your attention. Yeah, all right, I'm so. Have you been this week? It's been a couple of weeks, hasn't it? Since we last recorded. Felt like a lot happened. Yes, since we recorded. Yeah, we've Butt in in our podcast world. It's only being we are, very true, very true, ex clearing that one week we didn't upload, and to human beings who called me out on it. Fuck you, guys. WAS IT gonna say? Yeah, since last time we recorded, we saw each other for the first time in a very long time. Oh yeah, I was amazing. That was a good, good day out. That was so in me Hi Park. We the final. You all. You found a little spot for us all to chill. All of us said loads of drinks. It great man. I had him drunk for three months and I would like to say that I was just vibing and just chilling throughout the whole session. And then riot and it was you a you willow me. That was like are you can't leave so early? Got Down that JD is like, okay, I'll guess out down it and I don't know whiskey guy. As much as I am Brown, I'm just not whiskey guy. Okay, so I tried just glugging it down and I think I have good three glugs had. It's somehow got down me. Therefore, for those that Nope, not having anymore. And it literally came out of every whole. If possess you're like a fountain. That also this is this is how your brain process. Your brain has you have to down this. What was actually said, and I'm pretty sure this is true, is Yo, you have to take a shot funding that. I've always seen this as a school. Is this not a Spool? That? It was mad like yeah, literally, it came out of your is, your nose, your mouth. If it look like, for those of you you know that thing where you have like these dudes holding up these what's it called, like the torches, and then they drink a like cassody and go once they expel it, that's where it looked like. It looked like you're expelling gasoline, but the you never just try to leave you doing that joke. I'm good, I'm going in flames ASAP, like I'll just burn my burn everything around me. I was also that that day is like the best analogy for my drinking habit. I went in looking fresh as fuck, like a new share the new short I was feeling myself. I was like the first time I've left the house in like a millennia, and I was just like, Oh my God, this in bit Mundy. Have it had this so fucking long. And then...

...when I was leaving, managers like, I need to get home as soon as possible. I don't make life and Oh my God, hangover was so fucked, like my thing, my body claps, so fucked that I went home, slept immediately. Had Don't have a problem. Woke up at three o'clock in the morning with with a hangover and I couldn't sleep till seven o'clock. Slept again, woke up around one PM and I was fine, your Dihydra, that's what happens, what you do. It was like, I'm not going to let you sleep. You have to know that. I'm not going to let you sleep. You need asty. Oh, I'm gonna give you a headache. Still not listen to me. All Right, fine, all right, all right, ahead of Chapter Migraine. Fuck you. Yeah, Oh, and also, your body's going to feel like he's going to throw up the whole time as well. I'm gonna do that acts as an extra for you. Yeah, man, yeah, that was that was a crazy day as well, because after you left, then who was there as well? And he left like half an hour and actually know now it's did quite a while after that and now after and then our friend jazz got absolutely at he who has what happened? It was so funny because, yeah, no, well, not, nothing happened. It was just like like when you when you know, like Oh, he's here, random, or you said the room main earlier. Never gonna mention that are well, I was in the photo with him and I was like wait, we left. We left jazz with Fab and Lom me has that trio. Ever before I've been worried for job. Yeah, we definitely got sessioned up, man, like he left to go for a Piss came back with an injury. When we cleared everything off, you had to like he was just walk there, walking with a limb, like, oh, that happened, is like what did this happen? I don't know, like it's mystery. Then when you a my, who's Joe Drunk? I don't the best. He's a good lady's a good lad. Then me and Lommy ended up going to Canadon the home stayed the project, a prodigy home. Yeah, exactly the original base. We get there with chilling by, you know, the dayer. Yeah, we're sat there on the tables, were drinking, drinking. It's just chatting. A lot of shit mostly is at this point we've been drinking what since one? It's like one am. Then these police officers come through and then he's like tell start it. Tells Mommy, sorry, tells mommy. Oh yeah, you can't drink, and then he canna. Can Look at me down this and then we're like why? We're not allow? Is that WHO? It looks like you matees had too much to drink. And then I'm like what? And then got the guys all right, call, just put that in the being and I cool. And so as they leave, Lom me just goes right like that, like this missive. The Dude police officer comes back, he's like stand up, gets him like press him up against the wall, handcuffs him and then he's like he's like I'm going to do a search, and I start searching for drugs, which, you know, obviously we didn't have, obviously we didn't happen, and I'm they're trying to make sense of it and I'm like, Oh man, this is crazy. Like this, this dude was just pissed off because you're allowed to be route to police, I mean freedom of speak, you allowed to swear it, freedom seek. Yeah, you just do not allow east harass or even harass or look like they have the right to search you or handcuff you if you look, if it looks like you're got to do something dangerous, which it wasn't the case. Like an he had no probable but probable cause to assume that we had drugs because, you know, our jaws were perfectly in play a man, and I was perfectly coherent when I was talking to him, and then then I was just like, I was like, why is this happening? I kept us a lot. Why are you doing this? I well, was searching for drugs. I'm like, I didn't think of this, but I should have asked. What made you think he had drugs? And then, yeah, it was. It was crazy. Yeah, and then pretty much after that we've just carry stayed there for like fifteen more minutes. kind of left fast. We can leave at home, but it was such a bus kill. I was like, Oh, this fucker was just here, he just got pissed off. That's all that happened. He was just pissed off and then he had the power because he's a police officer.

It was like, I'm just gonna handcuff him, Damn. Yeah, and this is this is where people were protesting. Like police officer to understand that they're not, they're not the shit. They're not out here like you can't lose it, like no more citizens be the ones that aren't actually trying to like fuck up your day or like, like what lot you are doing. In no way, shape or form was necessarily directed at him. It was just like Oh, yeah, fuck, it is what it is. But yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't that deep to actually try that Shit, because that the ybe of the day. This guy felt like, oh, how day does it does that to me? Mother check him and fuck up his day. So what it was? That's exactly what happened. Like in you can do you can search people and you know how long he was dressed that day, that fucking large trousers and shoes, by looking like a posh cards and I think that probably played into O. Yes, I that's a good demographic for drugs. Yeah, exactly, but still there were no signs. No, apart from the fact that he was drunk, handcuffs. There were Nursey, exactly exactly. It wasn't necessary. This dude just didn't like the look of Lommy and he decided to do that. It was fucked because I didn't they if you did a search, no handcuffs or anything like that. You. I'm I guess I'm just extrap playing, but I wouldn't imagine that to be that much of a buzz kill. You could continue night and stuff like that. But like hand cloffs, kind of like handcuffs. Yeah, handcuffs in the bed is great, on the streets is normal. Yeah. So I was going to say that with the BLM stuff, like all the protests I went to in London, I was there mostly for against police brutality. Like I didn't agree with all the talking points that they had at the protest, but I was there. I was like, Yo, police brutality. There's a lot of big racial components as well, but mainly is like we need to make sure that America is a lot better police brutality and do what we can, because the rest of the world always follows behind, and so I think that is a small example of how police can just abuse their powers. They have when at their every whim and they with without consequences. Like I tried asking what his name was and he kind of just walked away with are you guys can go down like it was. It was I was also drunk, but and I was being polite and everyone was being polite, and also it was dead with one partner. Within as soon as he handcuffed him to other police officers came and made this all big thing. In it was. It was crazy, and it was two girls behind us. You're like just laughing, like why did even happen? They saw it too. They were like what's going on, like it was the weirdest thing. There's like we have to rethink, like I think the powers of the police have. I know, like and like I guess. Yeah, I was gonna say one thing. One thing. When I saw everything, the riots happening and stuff like that, the the ones that you know is over. Did the beating and overdid like the attacking. They're usually the ones that look the scaredest, if that made sense, as in they were more like at least from boody language or something like that, they would be the more fraid ones. But then any notice, like even if someone, even if it was like an old man, even if it was anyone, that wouldn't be necessary harm. They would just go for the most amount of physical force. And that's what happens when you give power to the fearful. Like what the just the idiots or the world that they don't know. It's spider man rules more bros. Spiderman said it years ago. Bro Great Power, Great Riston, was billy great power us, and these cons don't understand. There supposed really they have sometimes, and that is that is obvious in many instances, and I think that the Lommy situation is like one of like a billion of them that happened on a daily basis. If anything exactly, I think it's they should think about it as like, hold on, do I do I have to use do I have to do this right now? That's what they should think, because it especially, I understand there's it's more new ones. If there's like a high pressure situation with bothing like knives and guns, where serious physical arm can happen. But when it's just when the only thing the person can do is run, you should just think about do I have to do this right now? They'll have to take it this fart and not succumb to just your instinct of this person pissed me off. Looks like a push Caun't let me handcuff him right now, like a good way. Yeah, rethink is it's like why should we? Why should he have the right to do that? No, yeah, yeah, so there's a certain things have to be rethought. I don't think police should be abolished, obviously, because...

...there's like a real criminals out there and I'll never go back. And I do believe the ideology of like making more of a community based environment as well as the police. Yeah, you're more like equal and balanced, and just having a ability that, like having an opportunity where the people can actually say, have a say in what is actually protecting them would be great, because it's like it's the equivalent of getting like CCTV cameras or like a ring doorbell for your house or something like that. Right, like you're getting, you're giving your taking the chance or you're taking the choice of what's going to protect you. But the police, they're in before you and have a say. Like we get saying other political party every four years, but we don't get saying what happens for the actual people who are physically protecting us. That makes little sense. Yeah, exactly. Kind of have to vote for your for the Party with the I guess with all these issues, whether it's like NA shares, the how you want to be taught in school, like, you have to vote for the party that it's more aligned with what your beliefs. But I think yet now, I think everyone's more aware of like the police powers now and I think they're going to be like that. It's going to have to be rethought because people are lot most people just more sensitive now. I'M NOT gonna lie. I was if that happened in the S or like S, like white all black. We just run. Obviously, I fucking Dick and then you carry on your night like another to three hours. But we kind of just more meeker people now, this this generation, and more sensitive and just want to be treated as humans. It's not a bad thing, exactly, exactly exactly, it's start a bad thing. That's all it's yeah, but it was a overall that day roll of us was a freaking roller coaster, but it was a it was quite good. It was quite good. It was awesome seeing everybody. I am sad that I couldn't stay for long. Obviously I'm trying to ease into the fact that I'm an alcoholic piece of mess to my family rather than this obedient child that I've been for three months. So I'm kind of slowly manipulating them into getting me out and about. But, like the other time, the other day pissed me right off. Can I just put there that I spend the last five six years of my life articulating this personality of me which, well, okay, wait, wait, okay. However many years I've known you and the guys? Is that how many years I've been articulating this? But I've been articulating this new personality for me where I don't give a shit, where you say yea, I do want one vibes. I've been sat I've been I've been found in the driveway many a time. But but now because of these damn right, I baby. So because of the past quarter of a year. It's fucked up every all the efforts I've made. Like now, like the other day, I was going to I was saying, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna go with a mate just for like a drive in the evening, and my dad was at Oh, when you going? When he come back? And as like Huh, and he was like what, what time are you leaving? What time I come back? And I was that I'll leave off today, I'll come, I'll coming to the three hours in it. And he's at all, what time you leaving? What having come back? I'll leave around seven and I'll come back a come around like Leven, and he's a ten. Ten, you come back time? Cool, no way, you didn't give a shit, but you got e's them in, Bro you got ease them in. I couldn't be four him, but he's them. Yeah, yeah, there, yeah, because that's that's true. That, yeah, yeah, that's especially. They tend to have this thing where they you kind of get some independence and then they can just fall back into certain things. They'll just try and test it and see. Let me see you how far I can go with this honestly, I think it's a unstint bowel of testosterone. I do, I do. It's just I at the end of the day, you, you've created a family, Wo House, your you've been running the house of for years. And now, Oh, you're a man too. Now, MMM, I tell you when to go to bed, bitch. Oh my God, is man. So I have an actually, wait, wait, has anything happened since then? How have you? Well, I mean, I guess I can pick up from that that day. So got home and after hanging out with you and then Lommie and Camden, got home. I think slept about four hours. Is that to catch? Of course, you're a star the France. Then, yeah,...

I went there for some family stuff. Then I just made the best, the best of it. I went. I went to in a Paris like every single day, because my my family was staying my aunt. She lives in I see my aunt and she lives in a place called some more for see, which is like a suburb of Paris. But it's really cool. It's like why need I asked? Oh, cool, I mean, of course. So you you know, I didn't even know it wasn't like in a Paris until I got up there, but it's kind of like if Richmond's was like surrounded by a river, and so it's like a little island and everybody there is fucking loaded. Is Crazy. My aunts, except for my aunts and her boyfriend, where they like doing quite well, like middle class still, but and they live in a really, really nice place. But didn't need to say like there's like he sayd I'll edit this out out anyway. It was having their best life, not mom. Now that there they are too, I didn't want to like make yet because there's there are levels of richness. Is like if you think of like Monica or something like, it's like there's a difference between a billion and a hundred million, and that's the difference. They're like there. She's of the more mothers, but it's still like Peing, like in London. Stand anything's grand. That's right now, but it was crazy, like I went through this literally there was a mini Chateau. I've got a picture of our pushed on instagram late it, but just in a residential area. It's like if you just walk past like like the hat trick flats, like you know that, like go past hat trick, I can camden and then you walk like thirty more seconds and it's just a chateau, a little castle, a mini castle. It's just that. And every house looks different. It's not like in London where everything is, yeah, attached and it is looked at the same architecture and with some parts of London you have different colors of flats, but mostly it is the same structure. It's like different structure, different types of gates, like I've seen that obviously in like third old countries and stuff like that, but that's more based on the fact that you buy the land and you build a house and all that vibes. But yeah, I thing to see in European metropolitan see, I mean because also those houses are kind of old as well, a lot of them. So it's like it's just what it was and it's kind of like it's the good thing about it is it looks beautiful. Like you, everyone's rides a bike. That's why I realize that's why it's called the tour the front, because French people just ride bikes like everywhere. It's crazy, this bike lanes and actual roads like in France, like actual lane, not just riding on the side. Yeah, and then, yeah, so it's Nice, but the problem is that. But the good thing is it looks beautiful. Every I walked around the river like of like this kind of like little islands. It takes talk about three hours and a half to do the whole thing if you're walking and every single house was beautiful. Every single house was sick. Some of them would like all the but clearly no one lived in them. But that was like let zero point, zero, zero one percent of them. So essentially everything looks beautiful. But the problem with that is that I really might aunt told me that it's very conservative and so they pay higher taxes so that no social housing is built there. So, which is why front is kind of like so segregated, so that you'll have a similar mass of land, but that's just poor and like bad buildings, like taught high rise tire towers and things like that. So that that's like the problem, I think, is everyone's a lot more segregade, whereas here you can have like nice bit and then you walk another minute and it's like, oh, that's just in the state, and then another minute it's like, Oh, that's nice, that's what that's what I like. Candid the one of the reasons why I love him more than anything. I was like it's the whole of London condensed into one little place. Like you see the the elite of the world and you see the stone a kid from next door. Yeah, you see the punks with the signs. You like, I just I want money, but it's I just want to buy a beer, like those signs of Hilarious that you've got the skinheads, which are cool. What it's like? I found out it's like a different it's not skidhead like German American. It's like my friend, my friend, my friend told me. Oh yeah, so you're that girl. Like I met this girl. We should have shaved heads, and she was like, Oh yeah,...

...yeah, she's a skinheaded. I like what I was like, she's thinking she's racist or I won't she nice and then and then I was like Oh cool, and then she explained to me it's just like more of a thing of like Working Class Cup culture, of the love reggae and Shit like that. I didn't really get that deep into it, so sorry if I'm missing out. And she just said Reggae and that's all I'm I grabbed. Don't yeah, I know reggae and they actually like for like civil rights and shit like that for people. I thought so, so an instead about that and like yeah, this guy was saying somebody similar. We're like, not all skinners are the same. And he was saying certain party he was part of. I guess they're not even called Aupie, but I'm calling him Pie. And Yeah, and he was saying how, like don't mistake us for these guys were we fought for you, we fought for this before that. We're actually the good guys, but we choose to look like this and we choose to unite all the common interest, which allies allies at the end of day. Yeah, exactly. Man was like let people have a shaved head if they want to, like, if they just h have they're not being racist. Who Cares? Well, if they're bold. And then I took continue that story. I was at the elephants heads and then I was just chilling. I think I might have been with Joe, and I saw the girl that I've met, this kidhead, and I went up to her and she was with a friend. I'm like, Yo, I was pissed. I was like Yo, oh my God, like am I forgot her thing. He told me that you were that you were skinned. I thought you should racist, but it's not. It's a differently all together. I said it mad loud and it like almost like like it was in a movie. It felt like the music stopped at that. Every everyone just turning their head take and she was just like Oh, yes, and then she kind of just went, okay, I guess you got didn't say anything else, like I'm going now. But yeah, that was like a good bit. That where the terms of like where I stayed in France. That was a lovely, lovely area. I also saw met up with my first friend I ever made in my life. So I was born in a place called climb off your high in France and he now lives in Paris. So I was like, actually, I think he died in Paris. I got in touch with him. It was like yeah, I was actually I saw your instagram. I was just actually gonna get in touch with you. So we went. We went to like this quite nice little bar in a place called chatle and in Paris, and it was awesome. Man. It was crazy. I've been but I felt really old because we met when we were three and then I left France when I was six, and so I was like, we haven't seen each other in twenty years and it feels like I'm fifty. Only fifty year olds get to say that, like I'm tretty six still, like that's like, I guess you just got always kept in touch via social media. I'm assuming right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, here and there, like and then, because I only made, I only made the instagram last September. So it was just like, who's this guy following me? Didn't even know it was me, and then it was like why is he doing that to his flatmate? So, first of all, the wout, there's videos where I wake up Joe and second of all, like he was just he found out it was me after like those videos because of them, but for Ady, she just saw was some random guy that followed him. Yeah, but but it was it was sick. It was sick. It's pretty good, man, it's pretty cool. I'm I'm kind of disappointed that we didn't do a pod while you were in France. We could have said this was like a international pot for a change. But it's fine, Bro, it's fine. It would have been impossible. It is barely possible, even though in the same country. GE's. Yeah, so that was that was our Improv classes. I reckon we could do Improv class every week. He said Yeah, yeah, it could do it. Who Do you think? Mrs Tick Tock? More you? I'm gonna go with me, because mine goes like ten years. Tick Tock, Tick Tock. There never really got a fuck about me. It's a I'm just saying, man, lady was going to be huge on tick tock. We were just waiting for the right time and the right moment for us, and then all this fuck's out now. I know, right, Bros just like drats. But yes, actually a...

...bit of context if you don't know why we're talking about that. Tick Tock has been banned in India and Australia and US are thinking of banning it and it's probably might happen in the near future, like near, like week or so, and UK hasn't said anything about it, but you yeah it. I mean for weeks now I've been getting random Google because coming my way is like, oh, tick tock has been banned in place to or tick too, and I think there were different countries, but I never acknowledge because I see and then I'll be like, I'll go to the place do let's see if it's there. Oh, it's still there. Hm, but then yeah, so, yeah, Tick Tock to me on the fucking ropes man. Apparently, is it because of the China? Yeah, they're sending all the private day deals to, yeah, the China himself. But that's Yep, I don't doubt it. And, to be honest, is like I don't really mind it. It's they don't allow facebook looked an allow google to be like fully, I think Google is as designed to go to China about have they're going to work with the Chinese government. Have a sense of version of Google, so like a Google light. Yeah, and essentially that which this is provocy. I think it's fucked. But to me it's like they bandled all these social media ship from here for the same reason. So I don't see why the West would do the same. Like yeah, and I'm sure, and it's interially, like, oh, it's not just a private company, when it's a Chinese company, it's it's a Chinese government goes God, yeah, yeah, no, Chinese company is a company. They're just ends of the government. simpolize. Who when it when it says made in China, it's one of the counselors just like. Oh, anyway, speaking of Censorship, Oh, Oh, oh, say, yeah, motherfucker, go, you got just carry on. Okay, speaking of Segue, what about cancel? Speaking of speaking of Segue, I oh my God, speaking of seaking of sense, another one. Cancel culture. Cancel culture. There's a kind of culture is having a big moments. I corrected it, corrected. Yeah, speaking of cancel culture. No, see, you've stopped it. Stop This, stop, stop this madness. Okay, compose itself. You got this, you got this. Speaking of censorship, HMM, cancel culture. It's having a big moment right now. Right, gals, it is. Yes, it is, yes, it is. I'm assuming you're bringing up the Shane Dawson drama. That's right. Do you want to let everyone know what's happening? Gals, so kind of your course. I'll do that. We both can't talk a moment. I. Yeah, so, Shane door sins under the ropes again. On the ropes again? I'm not sure. Well, he's somewhere around the ropes again, because I sound like he's not even in the ring right now. He's. Yeah, basically, he's got. He's got a bollocking from many sides, a lot from the beauty community for being weird with children and from the celebrity kind. With a clip of him in one of his youtube videos from I want to say ten years ago, is is going kind of viral of him essentially jerking off to Willow Smith poster. Way All that. It wasn't jerking off right, the joke. That was a joke, asn't. But you said he was essentially joking off me. You that needs to sorry say. I was implied. Yes, and no dicks were seen in this in the making. Yeah, the video then show him sort of furiously masturbating it pictures of a young Willow Smith. That wasn't it. It was trying to be had like a comedy Vlog, like type of Youtube Channel, and he decided to have a bit the ways. A lot people think that he went too far when he said he made suggestions that he Jack Jack off to willism if I forgot how exactly he said it. But yeah, let's stop, because not make people think that it's s someone called him. Sound rumors begin right when you can't say anything.

We've spread a lot in this this podcast. But no, no, yeah, that's exactly it and he's getting the last slack from the beauty community as well from Youtube side, because there's a lot of there's a lot of drama that happens that. Apparently now it's coming out that he was one of the master minds of ruling People's careers and like making accusations or making other people point fingers a someone just to like avoid any sort blame on them. And Yeah, he's like, yeah, he's in deep wall right now. But wait, so is what what happened exactly? So basically that the beauty dramas bullshit. But I'm just going to say as brief as possible. But basically, I think last year this woman, this thirty eight year old woman Tati, whose makeup Youtubeer, came out and called out this other youtube but no, no idea, some twenty one year old guy. And Yeah, basically he made that she made allegations that he was a rapist and a pedophile, something on the lines of that. And now she's come out and said that there was two different people that kind of manipulated me into thinking that and gave me evidence into thinking that, and she's basically come out to say, I'm sorry, but I was manipulating to think of that and I was mint she basically came out and said I was made playing into making a video, which is the youtube equivalent of he did it first. It's what I like to think. But yeah, yeah, yeah, so then that's happened, and I think the whole beauty drama bullshes, bullsh anyway, I don't give a shit about that. But let's talk about like the cancel from yeah, and especially let's talk about in in the sense of like the Will Smith family and Shane Dawson. Do you want to start off? Will you think about it? Well, I was. I'm also because I'm also I think about because it's got, I think it's going from all sides, because there was an art. There was a letter against cancel culture that was signed by, you know, New York Times journalist JK rowling, someone Rushty, Margaret Atwoods, like loads of academics and writers saying, come on, this needs to end, and which I agree. I agree. I'm not. I do agree with that. It's so kinds of coacha plays with empathy, a law like like. It's the equivalent of when, like, someone says, like when, when I saw the tweet from Jaden Smith saying, like you were sexualizing my sister and stuff like that. And yes, like it's kind of was shit. That really hurt. That must really hurt. But then I look at that the Jay James Gunn situation where he lost it were Disney basically fired him, and then now he's back on board, but he fined him for some, I want to say, tweets racist, racist or homophobic? What it was? It was, I think it was more sexist stuff. He was kind of going at everyone who was being like a provocator and he was saying some racist stuff as well or something, but it wasn't. Yeah, but those were all tweets that that got in fire, Nat smoothie, as I like to call it. Yeah, and so then, yeah, but then I was really bummed out with it and it's just like, HMM, but then this change or something. I think I'm less bumped out by and I think I don't give a share about and that's why I don't care. But essentially it's the same, same thing, exact same thing, and it's like where something you do like a decade ago comes to buy your ass because pc culture has come so far that it was okay then and you didn't actually pay the consequences then. But doesn't mean that you doesn't mean that you're in the state to like do now. And I do understand to some extent that it's if you didn't, if you didn't get punished or if you didn't see the consequences for what you did, then what does it mean for you now, and that's a question I can't answer. But having a punishment as far as literally knee losing your career every single time something that you fucked up on ten years ago, which probably was acceptable by our stupid standards, then do you yeah, your life now so hard? Exactly? I don't think so. I think you know fair enough that you you if you're a writer,...

...if you're tweeting, these are thoughts and your you're a lot of James gunns to. He's probably got a lot of retweets as well, like yeah, there's a culture that may be toxic. The thing to do is not and Jim's gunfriends is clearly changed. I think this the shame. Dude. He's he'd evolved. He wouldn't it. I don't think he'd do that joke today because the culture is changed a lot. Like he wouldn't it. Wouldn't make it film himself like pretending to Jack off, even though it was clearly a joke. Maybe I don't think he would do it, even how sensitive he appears to be on his videos. But like, yeah, no, I don't think you should ever judge the past by today's standards, as if he's do that. There was going to be endlers and by the time, you know, in a hundred years from now, hopefully, if we've done our job, our grandkids are going to be like Yo, these not used to be fucked up, like these, not us, it's true. So you're gonna but hopefully they'll also see that it was just a different understanding and there's only so much you can do. You can you can do. When you have seven billion people on Earth, you can't be there's the same reason that, like you know, monks still got still got fucked up, because you can choose to live the best possible life, but there's going to be some assholes out there. We're going to come and burn your monastery and fucking kill then kill you everyone and take a shit. So it's it's I think it all plays together. We a we have a good culture. We it's there's some some parts of it are backwards. It's to use the word toxic sometimes, but especially, you know me, in a world of a joke, I don't think you could ever say that something's going too far because it's a joke. You see that? That's what I'm saying. I do believe that, and that's what confuses me now. And it's just like would would those kind of yeah, okay, sorry, I there was I had to go a turn after the freezer because it rings every now and then because if, if, I think it wasn't closed properly or something. Yeah, yeah, well, thing, yeah, yeah, as he might. I do agree with my sense, because it's like would if you were to do the same shit now, would it just class as edgy? That's my question. Like are we putting more is it? Is it an interest factor that we're acting on to the actual incident, because it's so old that we're adding it to the because kinds of culture, let's be honest, is weaponized now. It was great at the start. I am I was all forever start because console getting counted, and as they should. Yeah, the met movement was amazing because it actually allowed people to speak out finally, but also gonna wear it two seconds. I could. I just say that for a brief second. You said me move movement. Go on, continue. Sorry. Sorry, yeah, I can't let go of that one. People are dying. Yeah, fucking me moves, fucking the the EMOs. EMOs are being treated badly and I'm going to start a me move movement to save, to help, say well emails and bring equality before us all. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that was the Times that you gave up in your own thoughts. Nice night. So, yeah, no, I don't like like I was saying before. I've really interrupted your fucking face. Yeah, meet movement was amazing and stop, but then it becomes weaponized, when like one crazy thing that you could see. Like, I find like I got weirdly drawn into like the world of like the Youtube beauty community drama, and it's just bringing a lot of these tea time youtubers tea. That's why I yeah so much about this shit. And and then it's just like I felt like everything they do like, you know, it's like Camden's a condensed version of London. I feel like the beauty subers are a condensed version of all the toxic traits in human nature. It's great and Bro I'm trying to say is, like you see fellow youtubers like try to cancel each other out, and that's the problem, like when we're blackmailing people, when when we were like actually scared to actually show our personality, and the whole point of Youtube, the whole point of a lot of our social media's is, was our way to express oururselves. And the reason early days, a lot of influencer became influences,...

...like Peter Pies, became the beauty bids of the world because of their they're they're just their characters, their character, as in, it wasn't a case of they put on a like an act or something like that. I wasn't anything like that. It was just a guy being himself and we loved watching it, simple as but over time it's become something else, and that's what that's the that's the worst thing that could happen to these kind of great like platforms where no one's, no one's no one's got the balls to actually act like themselves because they're scared they're just going to get canceled. And it's at this point it's I don't honestly, I'M NOT gonna lie. I don't think there is going to be an end for cancer culture. We've opened Pandora's books and I don't think this is going to be closed over, I think. I think there is. I think I'm with some people. Cancels each other out and then we start new. Well, I mean, first of all, we could be canceled from from them, from the first from the first episode. We could have been canceled, given everything we've said to do, we would have been canceled for the episodes that don't get aired. Hey, yeah, but yeah. Well, I was going to say is I think the people that get canceled the easiest are the ones, the social justice, justice warriors themselves, because they like the people in the beauty industry, like you said, I don't. I haven't watched anything. I barely know is a Shane guy is. I kind of briefly read through it as a like. I think it was on the BBC website or whatever. No, I know, Jadens move tweeted it and I was it. That's how and that's how I found out about it, and then I saw that is moment do the same thing. But at the same time these are people who are trying to be perfect. They tried to look perfect. They trying to have this standard of like perfect symmetry in morally, so esthetically, in every single way you can. You can put nothing goes outside of this little box, if created for themselves. And then, obviously, as soon as you mess up, because you will, because guess what it's you can't get moral symmetry in a world full of humans, you will your gonna get pulled down and you could going to create that type of that type of culture, and but cancel culture for the most part, is bullshit as well, because it's just what is. It is like, oh, someone didn't say exactly this thing in the best part, in it the most perfect way, at the exact time. Therefore, I'm going to call him out. Ha Ha, look at me, I'm such a good person. Let me Rub my Barey as I digest this moment like it's a ridiculous stunce. It's a you know, you've heard all the words. It's virtue signaling and it's just you trying to tell yourself and or and everyone around you that you're a good person. And I think it comes from people being like people don't know how to think for themselves. I honestly think that I think people mortality, yeah, MoD mentality, and but it's like every single issue there's a mob mentality, there's a dominating ideology, a dominant dominating lists of things to say, and it's like everyone that follows it is their whole arguments, always like no, no, you can't say that. This is what you should say. You cut the in every domain. It's like you can't say that this is what you should say, as if there is one thing you should say. There isn't. It's yeah, no, it's you are completely right. It's a ridiculous sorry, man, I have it. It's a ridiculous way of being that actually has a lot more implications and it creates this politically correct environments. And Guess, guess who started political correctness? It was mous China, the good the great dictator and killer of millions. He did it as a way. He gave people the script of things it could talk about and things not to say, and they could only say nice things about the governments. And then essentially everyone acted as spies to to themselves and you had people like good, like telling on, telling on their brothers, selling on their sisters, on their partners, when they their part. That when the person they supposed to love said the wrong thing. And so how, why would we adopt this similar way of being? My problem isn't as like yeah, completely agree, and the whole calling out share is identifically do what's happening right now. But my thing is like, like, if something isn't right in our day and age and someone's calling you out on that, take accountability and actually say that you're not that person. That's all you need to say. Yeah, like, unfortunately we are living in the world that you need to actually verbally say I've grown up, but we are. So just can't be as the other thing and just say it. But Oh, yes, just I agree with that one miss not. But yeah, but it's just when it's one mistake that...

...you do a ten years ago, that means that's your interview career. Now I'm not sure about and and I want to put the death scream out there that we're both not for Shane. I don't think both of us even understand why he's done wrong. Oh No, from the the willow side of things, yeah, that's the only thing we know about this shit. We don't know the rest of it. So if he's getting even someone else went upart of it. And also, let's get some clarity. I'm pretty sure they do this gay right, that dudes gay shine. Yes, yes, he has right partner and yeah, and it's like yeah, you all right that. I think it's it's obvious. That is to joke. It's obvious. Now, okay, is it? Is it in bad taste? Yeah, probably. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen the video. I was like, it doesn't he's not my type of person for comedy, so I didn't bother. But it's if it's clearly framed as a joke. If he's not like actually doing it or arguing for it. Hey, guys, we should all masturbate to a young Willow Smith. If he's not saying that, then is did this. It's it's bad taste. That's what it is. Is and you can't go as far as saying but, but you know, he put himself in that world because what he set up, he was part of setting up this culture, and I'm with you when you say that calling out. Yeah, I'm absolutely for calling out when someone's on so bullshit. Called him out, like we live in the like as much as I would roasted earlier, we live in a bill for age, that we can call out very important people in the world. Yeah, they have to, they have to address it, and I'd love that part of like twitter, like the amount of times, like celebrities, of actually find like you actually be learned that like someone's a can't just because of twitter and like that. They they and when they double down with whatever discrimination they went for, that's the best one. Is like the worst double down you can find. Double Damn for KFC banging. Don't know, hesis not so bad, but I mean, I think that there's been a lot. There's an endless list of people who have admitted. Hey, I was actually out of order when I said this. And then the the cancel culture. To me, calling out is and cancel culture. Calling out is just calling out is like, Oh, this is a problem, I don't fuck with that. It's the mob mentality where it's like it's the equivalent of not letting someone speak back, but exactly second you found a flaw in them, there they dead to you. It's if you don't like someone's content, if you don't like someone's jokes, if you don't know someone's humor, don't watch him. Great, but don't try to like ruin their career. Don't like try to harass them social like social media, harass them everywhere, everywhere you can find exactly. That's perfect. That's more perfect than the fact you trying to cancel like someone worth canceling right, like it's it's it's like you're right. It is a continuous it's like it's called to call out. It's important to call out. But when you can, when after they've said, I'm sorry, I was rung back then. I am no longer that person. That bullshit apology that they all use like I'm pretty sure that they just google a what was your apology again, like Kevin Hut coote. Just see, see me on that, and then I'll copy and paste to change a few things. It's always that I am no longer than the man I used to be back then. I'm no longer that person I was. I've made a constant and continuous I will continue to be better. That was the last dead person I'm going to film this, but it is gets it gets ridiculous when, after they they admit they fully like lower their shields and bow down to the moment, even if sometimes I don't think they should have. But we even when they do it. It continues and it's like no, you're a bad person, you're you're awful. Canceled by it's it's like this people who just want bloodshed. It's a kind of like gladiator match for them. Where where they part? They like a gladiated behind their fucking keyboards and they're fucking in a voice. No, I was, I was gonna. I was not. I had to stop. I was gonna say something worth canceling. There like we don't we haven't got enough followers. canceled. Yeah, bro Oh, no, there's there's enough people that I know that watch our videos that I need to not hear me. Yeah, man, but it's yeah, when canceled culture goes too far, is it's ridiculous. No, yeah, you're right. Actually more people need to be like when with a bird watcher, the bird watcher in like central park, black dude. Yeah, and then he asked a woman to change and then that she had use a white privilege to call. Is that Amy Cooper? I believe, I think so. So she was recently charged...

...with she's going to prison potentially right. Well, no, no, she was. She would have, I think she would have to pay for something. I don't know. Oh, nos, in like fighting community, but I know I just read today that like there's going to be a core case and basically she might be facing a year of a year, a year or prison. That's why I thought, that's why I read today, Matt, based on, based on false Lee. Why I like accusing someone. Yeah, well, I like about this story is that the Black Dude, the bird watcher, which, by the way, that's what's most fucked up. It's not that he was just a black dude, he's a bird watcher. You're calling the cops on a bird watcher, and a black bird watcher. You know how Geeky you have to be to be a black bird watcher? Bro, you're gonna say it. You're also I only heard about the bland which you recently, and I'm just saying, wait, I know Amy Cooper, who's the bit no belief. It's ridiculous. And but what I like about him is that he's not cooperating with the police. He said sorry, Hey, yeah, he said. She's suffered enough. I feel like everyone hating her as cause are enough pain and she needs time to heal. This is some Gandhi Shit, man. This is a good burn this is this is what people need to get in touch with more. Everyone needs to start watching some birds. Broke this guy. Yeah, now I really am Broery, my I'm not. I'm sold opposite. I'm pain enough to like I will find a way to like incriminated even more. Should I like find a way to look like she killed me, I could look dead. Honestly, that I don't think people need. People need more forgiven. It that like, because otherwise they will just be no space within culture for everyone to move and will be even more divided, and that's the last thing that we need. People need to be comfortable talking and being and forgiving people who may have done them wrong, like, like said the wrong thing or the done a wrong action. I'm not saying that I would have done the same thing, like yeah, but I like to think that. I know, yeah, I don't know I would have done that because, Yo, brother, brother, I've seen you UPO Cup. No, Ha, that, what do you mean? I took that like a buss. You did, you did, you did, and, to be fair, apparently didn't have so it's not really taken as a boss, is it? Well, I mean kind of. I was ready to take us. What he didn't give it. As a boss. I could have. I mean, yeah, there's a story. I got I got upper cart in islands a couple times, but I didn't fight back because when a flight back and that's some Mother Teresa Shit. and well, not really. It's some smallshit, because I was like, I think a republic of Ireland as some different police. I can't just go and leave the country. Of course, yes, yeah, it's not. If it was Northern Ireland will be a different story. I I can, but I'm thank the sponge. I don't think out of you know us had a good time. Wait. Well, I went to know the nine at the sixtime. Man Really on the renown to be more racist. Well, if they are not the Ghost, Oh my God, I was. I've never been more popular and tender never in my life. I felt like a girl. I was swipe right, it was. It was crazy, dude, ah man, on the days they woulded a shock say what they wanted. That good, good chocolate. I I don't know about that. I rebet. Regret. Having said that, now, I was just in the moment. I want to stop the narrative, sort of, ladies man. I want to stop that narrative. I'm for Breece. I am just a kind boy, all right, but you and I know the Irish people are really, really fucking cool. One like everyone was fucking Nice, really, really funny. I didn't get to go out that much, but there was like one of the actors on the show. I forgot his name but I know that he plays Malfoy in the Harry Potter play. Oh, nothing, felt him. No, not in the Harry Potter play. Oh, and he was there and we'll just shouting. I was like yeah, I'm going to take you out and but because we like didn't have time, in the end up happening. But people are warm and he's from Northern Ireland. So yeah, people. Sorry, I've always had that. I don't know where it came from, but what do you be fair? I've always heard like Spain is quite racist, and I mean I've been boss. I haven't seen the racing. I've seen a couple of dodgy looks, but I guess I look dodgy, but I don't think. Yeah, you you hear a lot of like which places are races, which places on, I guess, until you receive I. Until that's we know exactly. I I don't.

But I think also there's a there's a difference between being a local and being there as a tourist. So when, like, when I went to Portugal, like or I, I got Portugal, France, and I feel like the place might not, might be a bit too traditional, you know, I went to a coffee place, like I'll do like a I'll speak English and they'll treat me like way more in a way, more welcoming manner than they would have otherwise. Yeah, yeah, I've I do it those times. But if you if you were tourists yours and you're a person of color, and this specifically, I think, specifically for black people, but I think maybe for Brown people, but that there's something that they have a problem with, mass immigration, I think. And Torius they welcome, but so lies them is many for them. So, so, exactly, exactly. So that's why they're like, Oh, I like you, because you don't want to stick around for too long, I think. So there's something to that. In my in my head, in my head, like I'm just got racist, just like race is just asking for like ideas. Are Away from Olivia, are you a bitch? Canada, welcome home, guys. It's true, it's true, it's crazy, but it's the world we live in. Oh yeah, here's one last question I wanted to arks regarding kinds of culture recently. You Go, go, thanks, thanks, movie. Mean to say, yeah, I think it was Sean King. I think I follow right. There's a lot of people that are following now our post Blm. That is because of, like you, you follow a lot of like movement enforced in all that Shit. And so then he there's a lot of times where they post a video about like some racist incident and someone's being very racist, and then they will be like they'll call out that person, though. They'll find out that the they will find out the name, they found out where they work, and then the next day you would see that that person that comes. Yeah, that's creed out. We find what do you think about that? Yeah, because all iety is that man or woman is never going to understand, is never going to actually be accountable for the mistakes they were made. They never not going to be racist. They're going to be racist wherever they get a job. And I'm not saying try to make a Seminari every time you get racially abused, and I'm not saying that the people in the victims of the videos are in the wrong, that they'll be see the victims. That's nothing. But what Internet is trying to do by saving the day are all weaponizing their power, and that's fair. If I if that caused similar to the amy couper situation, I would have been glad if she went to prison because that would have been like real rehabilitation, right. But it's just the idea that the Oh, just anyone is out there to lose a job over this. But those individuals are never going to learn their lesson and they're only going to just they're going to feed on that hate and they're going to grown that. Hey, they're gonna spread their hate to their children. It's going to carry on. It's not going to be a case of they're going to learn from their mistakes, because at that in there put yeah, man, like everyone else has ever else is just pro colored and I'm pro white. HMM. Yeah, it's I mean it's a thing that, yeah, is it always comes back to us having to listen to each other more than take an action against each other. But yeah, with those specific cases that you said where you know they'll target you the type to talk your professional, your social life. They'll shun your friends for being friends with you. But they they'll they'll create they'll put pressure on everyone around the person who did the wrong thing, whether it was sexist, racist or anti whatever ill, and then you'll end up being fired loose some friends because of it. Yeah, you're right. There is no rehabilitation, and you know, the world should focus on rehabilitation. I'm a you know, I'm a big, big subscriber of Mr Operation of redemption, but that is just my coke problem now. No, but I reckon that. Yeah, there has to be a place. What we have to think about how we can not just have people fired, and I guess I understand to have the person who did something really wrong if they're like own, if this the CEO or CE COO or in a high position in like a fortune five hundred company. Because, yeah, I can't you understand that idea. You can't mess up...

...like when you're when you have that position. You just can't mess up like that. You can't. You have too much you have too much power, you have too much responsibility. You should know where you are exactly. It's when if the employees. That's that that I don't know. What to feel. I honestly don't know what to feel. When it's employees, I think that you know, they should, they should. I mean, my I don't I don't know. I don't have the answer, because it's like you fucked up. You fucked up big enough to that you know not that now your bosses know about it and they don't want to work with you. It's like, what if your boss is black and you said some racist Shit in Oh Brown and you and you said some old Muslim and you said some antime, some is Imophobic shit out and about, and then he finds out about it? Why should he keep you when you're when you say, when you'd saying that so or what if the person might even be none of those things, but really care about those issues and think, hold on, I've got too many Muslim friends or got too many Brown friends or too many black friends to put up with this. Oh, they just want to make money and be like, hold on, no one's gonna buy our shit if they think that we're hiring racists. So from their position I kind of get it as well. But yeah, I think sometimes it does go too far. Aware like it's a minor, like there's that there's that case of that woman. Sorry, but there was that case of the woman who said she was flying to South Africa and she got on the plane and she tweets something like I'm gonna, I'm going to go to to I'm going to I'm going to Africa. Hope I won't get AIDS. I won't, I'm white, something like that. It was a it was a funny tweet and it wasn't. It wasn't funny. It was, it was, but it was like it wasn't hateful, it was ignorant at best. But the way she worded it was was more witty than what I what I made it sound. I mean by the time but whip when it was a good joke, or not exactly, but by the time she landed she was fired. So I don't think, I don't think. I don't think she should have been fired for that. Like it's insensitive words. This different than like directly saying, you know, fuck you, fuck you Nigga, go back to your country. That's racist, you know, saying calling someone, but making making jokes that are that are of bad taste shouldn't get you fired. I don't think that. My thing is always with jokes, but if you're in direct confrontation and you say some rate like extremely racist shit, I don't know, any problem with them firing you. Huh, it's it's my thing about is like if you did something physically, like verbally racist in the store in their say in this analogy, under owner the store, and then you did yeah, fuck it, I'll fight, but it's just the accountability that human has of like their twitter, their twelve whatever. Yeah, and they're not working in the store and firing them over that. That's that. That makes me just I don't know. I don't know how to feel about and I don't know if it's I'm just feeling a little weird about it, and that's should be the normal. Like this. I don't know, gee, it feels very China. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly, for Real, for real, that's true. I'm just gonna say because imagine they could say they could do that with you. Imagine all of a sudden, like people send the clip of like our shit where you're calling me fat. I'm talking about our there's an all the clip where you you're calling me fat. There's a lot of people will not comfortable with that. And I have a clearly, we are in imagine I get you, get out of you be. You're fast shaving me, bro Yeah, you're forth of being. And the worst thing is I actively needed. I use encourage you, encouraging behind the scenes, but no one sees that. I lost. Actually, I lost three kilograms in Paris. Well done, double it, pitch. Yeah, Mike, he said that. My job isn't done. Is Far from done. You said, I can't stop and the until I lose at least fifteen. You're not done until you lose at least one move. But that's about press ups, man, that's about press ups, and I will. Don't worry. Don't worry, guys. I pledge to you, guys and girls, I will get back into shape before, before we hear thousand listeners. Yeah, you be...

...the judge of that. I mean, I had to enjoy quarantine. This is my quarantine, buddy. Yeah, most people put up, put on the quarantine like was it the quarantine fitness to like the court, the quarantine to kg? I put on the quarantine like twelve. I was gonna Die Twenty at least. You went bit more more. Hello, I said I was Halla. Hello, Halla, and I can't hear him. I can't hear him. The connection is bad. I still can't hang him. It's crazy, dude. I know he's talking, but Anna, I can't hear him. Ye Know. Oh, hey, buddy, no yet. That's that's all right, man. I mean I think you know to wrap it up, so you wrap it up, but you were happy. Now you are wrapping out. Oh our God, I heard some some whoo technical difficulties, guys. Right, all right. Well, to wrap up, you know, rethink about like your cancel, if you're part of this cancel culture bullshit. Rethink that Shit, I really. Think for yourselves and think about what if it was someone you cared about, and think about everyone that you know who said something that was wrong, that you laughed at, that you would laugh up today because you know about. What was that process like? How did you get to know about? Did you just or were you just born like that, which wasn't the case? Right, and think about whether you're doing what you're doing because of your strong beliefs or because you think that's what everyone wants you to do exactly, or because you just trying to show that you're just a good person. You're just a good person. Everyone House. Oh, you sit down to Earth, he's so humble. Or if you just board and you need someone and you and you're like you can't hate on anyone in your life and you just feel like you can hate on people on twitter and you can stick, you can virtually signal and be mean, because the same people who to go on about fucking fat shaming and you know many to be comfortable with with their bodies, there were the same people like Donald Trump is fucking fat beast with a tiny Dick because he has small hands, as like anyone else said that about anyone else is wrong, but because they're saying it about Donald Trump is somehow acceptable. It's ridiculous, a double stand as they have anyway, if we really think about where you're applying that shit and think about becoming a more measured person, more refined individual. Amen. Amen. All right, are we done yet? GALS? I think we are in episode Whoa Jow for now.

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