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Episode 13 · 1 year ago

Ep11 Mental Me Too

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode, Fab dabbles in weed, Gowse becomes a heroin addict and we tackle me too!

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...then I think that's thats Ba. I thinkshe should have the right to stay inonymous to the public, but not to thegay and the guy should not have the right to outer a hundred percent, but the only von Wentar I gess Tony only ethical situation was valus thatif you don't want even your name out there for oa like en, if you don't wante your name out, therefor you're Twell, the Chonce of you going to a police,even though you can understand that you can make ou anornomous you can make.Ayour name doesn't go to the personal thast year. It's a huge Ted from from,like just noin, giving you name to to going, and I tein finding a complain inMright, so it's I would agree that that is probably thebest root to take. If you don't want you name out, and Ithinkou mayavanythingthat'sprobably your only ru, we sorry, if you don't,if you don't want my name out, say that you should go to twitter andanonymously at the person Othink Thi, that's the best we to takeor nono I just I agreed with you the bestprayapaning and complain: Okay, okay, Yeah Ye O. I was trying to understand. I was Umyeah. It was just it's interesting that there's there's a there's also like now thecase of false accusations like ours. I've been digging and and looking atstories about this as well like there's a crazy story of this dude tin,Australia. He married this is like a nightmare scenario and it's like t theworst thing. I think it could happen to like something Linder me too itwas,like he married this woman and they were together for a while, but he shewas like a retty materialistic Um and he had to work two jobs to Han. He boutall the most expensive shit you might have heard of this, and then he um andthen I she was just spending all his money and then he, I guess, met up witha lawyer that she found out. He comes home one day. The House is trashed, she says. Oh, I know you've been seeinga lawyer Y yo. U think you can just get rid of me like this fakyou she runsaway gets in the lift, starts punching herself uppercots ar twice lilike melike. I was up a cut but she's doing it to herself, and then she goes. She goesout brons an us for help the guy he didn't know the guy just thought. Oh,she there's something wrong with her, so he called nine nine nine. At thesame time she did about her, but she accused him of a Biin, a hegot gottaken to jai. She, the police, helped her pack Um everything that she neededfrom the house, which means that she took his shit. A lot is most the mostexpensive possessions that he had and then he had to like hire a lawyer spendloads of money and then until he found the CCTV and N, you see you see it withyour own eyes, her running and then geting to the yellow, va seeing someonepunched thimselves twice in a rage, then blaming someone else, for it isfreakiest fuck man, Yah, that's of Gost Peventa in it Isyou think like that th hadturnedTofour, three Sixtyshjust Ping Buti was like fuckthat wasbelievable. Imean I ge in descension, as no difference to th Central Park, caren right, yeah kindof it's like it's that's a lower version of it yeah. Knowing you yet self aware the party you haveknowing how to use it and yes, a blass and it's creat, 'cause 'cause Ta got methinking that all right, it's it's really hard disproving. Is it's really hard toprove that you've been sexually arosed or assaulters or rapes right? It'sreally really hard to prove it. That's why a lot of people don't do it and andmost guys hpursue they don't do it. They don't go through it. Actuallythat's another thing, but it happens mostly to women and Um butwhat. I found out I as also thinkingthrough and there's loads of cases like that, like I'm Gonta, like of justwomen, who've done this type of stuff, where, like syline, it's even harder.Now To this prof like once, you've been labelled at like a sexual assault orlike a raperst, it's even harder to prove that you're, not and even afterthe the guyse and all the guys have been. This has happened to they sayl,even after you aprove it in the course once the public knows about it, youalways have that stink and even even if it doesn't go like in e in in like itdoesn't blow up online or in the media,...

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So so at leasted my life when Wiam, Iwould show you I'm giving you to way to Resov yourComminmeesos by he end of it and you have your own show and MineisGin be trunt, Toca, exdenso crisis rel. You know why you know why, becauseyou're original, no dud, 'cause you're original Broh you're, one of a kind there will be nHo. Were such a fan of sitcoms that you woudn't, you didn't want your Sitcom tobe like any of the other ones. He wanted to stand out and and then whathappens you you get this egcential cris. You don't know who to trust. You StartSmoking wheed and then you take heroine and you die. But then they pick up your story and itturn your life into a Sitcom, and that is a real ghoust legacy. How metter is that and people stude you for years andyears they studied the life of gals. Your great great grandchildren are likeHey, I'm directly related to this man he's my great great granddad and you're,proud of you. Your Dad is proud of you. Idoe sowit,you CARRI, the family, l, the fact of the family legacy the world has tostudy every university. They study you, no matter what cause in maps philosophy.It's such a a compelling story, the reason I texed Yowith a littlecouple of ideas bee for the Poitgar iscause. I do that you can thet. When Idrunk something out of a I, I r I read it Ri. I read it wrong all rightconfess it. I read it wrong. I thought I had to come up with my own sitcomefor my own life and think of the rold you played in my own life, so then wha. But then I thought you were going to dothat and then wewere going to see like how we vew each other. That's where Ithought was going to be, but I came up with a decent story. Ari Mean I get oi get to Boad andRobbin Min yeah that that's a that's a gift, that' sixy gas. You get to boneRobin you get you get to have children with her. You get you get to m, live a life of a Sitcom for ten years.Just Tha last year it was ' at is not great. That's a Lagt earbut every everythingelse is amazing and romantic. Ious you' Welcae bet just so nice. I didn't know what I was going to say: Maymthe Best Fab is bad going on hisown way, mad t Tev, you do U ee, never gote wrong before te and also that space Te. Your life isbasically a Sitcom already youolready, I'm somehow articulatein my life justto have a revolving door O and like relationships that you know what the problem was. Iliterally did the reverse of what you said. I saw SICKCON and I artificlly inmy life to become one I I wastoo deep, tutly F, but on a was inthere you know it's badevery time I trie to get out they just put iand. Iwas forced to to pretend I was moving to a different country. Oh my Gosh alrtgos then are we done yet jow for now.

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